John Downs Elbert Sr (1772 - 1838)

Born 19 Jun 1772 in Talbot, Maryland

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 28 Dec 1838 at age 66 in Logan, Ohio, United States

Research

BECAUSE of the extensive research that E. Spry has done on the Elbert family, and because of the middle name "Downes" pretty much tells us that his mother was a Downes. So I am changing the parents to match her Family TREE, from Dr. John Lodman Elbert & Elizabeth Sudler to John's brother Henry.

Fourth Generation:

Children of Henry Elbert and Anne Downes, 3.9

One daughter married a Wright in this line. It would be most helpful to find a William Elburn who moved to Delaware and was a weaving master on 10/01/1787 who taught James Elburn as an apprentice indenture.

For continuation of this line, see http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/24647080/person/1547539775 -- don’t see any relation in this line to James, Lemuel, or Samuel Elburn. It appears that this family maintained the spelling Elbert. I take no responsibility for any data on this website – Mara French.

4.1 Anna Elbert, b. 1770 in Queen Anne, MD, d. 1839 in Mansfield, Richland, Ohio. Ann Elbert m. William E. Seth on 1 Jun 1796, Talbot Co.

4.2* John Downes Elbert, b. 1772 in Logan, Ohio, d. 1855 in Van Buren, Darke Co., Ohio. :He married Elizabeth Ficklin (1772-1845) and had children Elizabeth Elbert b. 1789; Fanny Elbert b. 1792; and John Downes Elbert, b. 1806, d. 1865.

4.3 Samuel Elbert, b. 1774, m. Anne Cox on 1 Jul 1797 in Dorchester Co., MD, d. 8 Dec 1815. “A” William Elburn comes from Dorchester Co., MD.

EXCEPT for, they have the SAME son who married Ficklin, and their son married Achsa and we have PROOF, also called a SOURCE that that is the father of Samuel......

Here is the paragraph that names them:

"Fifth Generation

Children of John Downes Elbert and Elizabeth Ficklin, 4.2

5.1 Elizabeth Elbert, b. 1789 in Ohio.

5.2 Fanny Elbert, b. 1792 in Ohio.

5.3 John Downes Elbert, b. 16 May 1806 in Fleming Co., KY, d. 27 Mar 1865 in Van Buren Co., Iowa. He m. Achsa Hitt. For details on this line, see [1]

THE OTHER problem with their TREE, it STOPS AT John Downes Elbert, b. 16 May 1806... they do not LINK any children to John Downs Jr. Achsa HITT!

We have had an Elbert Family Descendant inform us that the John Lodman Elbert is not the father to this John Downs Elbert. If TRUE? Then wikipedia.com is WRONG!

So we need citations to prove the parentage.

Here is the census, 1810 Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky, where it is said John Downs Elbert JR. was born. The head of the household John, would be 38 years old/ his wife, and 3 children all under 10 years old, 2 boys & 1 girl.

Name: Jno D Elbert

White Males: -10=2 / 26-44=1

White Females: -10=1 / 26-44=1

Page: 82

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"Dr. Elbert's wife, and son, Dr. John D. Elbert, Jr., are buried in Van Buren County, Iowa. Information taken from: Beers History of Champaign Co. Ohio" (found on his f-a-g)

NOTE: for this John Downs Elbert b:1772 Maryland and the Gov. Samuel Elbert b: 1740 of Georgia to be LINKED they would have to be father/son???? 200+ miles apart

Biography

Dr. John Elbert Sr served with Maryland during the American Revolution.

Military

"United States Revolutionary War Pension Payment Ledgers, 1818-1872,"

Name: John D. Elbert

Rank: Lieut

Event Type: Military Service

Event Date: 11 Feb 1831

Event Place: Maryland, United States

Event Place (Original): Maryland, United States

Death Date: 13 Feb 1838

Page: 205

Affiliate Publication Title: Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 through 1858, from the Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury.

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He is the grandfather to Governor Samuel Hitt Elbert

John was born in 1772.

1790/ 1820 Election District 4, Talbot, Maryland

Head of the household was John L Elbert

Free White Males:

Free White Females:

Page: 50

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Spouse: Elizabeth Ficklin 1774–1846

Children

1. John Downes Elbert Jr. 1806–1865

Death

Burial: Bishop Cemetery, Middleburg, Logan County, Ohio,

Headstone Inscription:

In Memory of

Doctor Jno. D. Elbert

who departed this life

December 28, 1838

in his 67th year of life

He died of Apoplexy whilst on his

way to visit a patient

He was a good physician, an Honorable

man, a sincere Christian & very

true friend of the poor & afflicted

for more than fourty three years. He

was a member of the Methodist E Church

_____________ is Holiness

He passed away in 1838.

Sources

1. ↑ Citing this Record: "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2H-T17 : accessed 7 June 2020), Jno D Elbert, Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky, United States; citing p. 82, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 6; FHL microfilm 181,351. Digital Folder Number: 005157063 Image Number: 00095
2. ↑ Citing this Record: "United States Revolutionary War Pension Payment Ledgers, 1818-1872," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24Q-V196 : accessed 5 June 2020), John Elbert, 11 Feb 1831; citing Maryland, United States, NARA microfilm publication T718 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1962), roll 3; FHL microfilm 1,319,383. Digital Folder Number: 004171627 --Image Number: 00206
3. ↑ Citing this Record: "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHL8-S4H : accessed 5 June 2020), John L Elbert, Election District 4, Talbot, Maryland, United States; citing p. 50, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 46; FHL microfilm 193,708. Digital Folder Number: 005157008--Image Number: 00052

1. Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 15 October 2021), memorial page for Dr John Downes Elbert Sr. (19 Jun 1772–28 Dec 1838), Find A Grave: Memorial #32044875, citing Bishop Cemetery, Middleburg, Logan County, Ohio, USA ; Maintained by Robert (contributor 46505507).
2. Hugh Elbert, born 1649 in Devonshire, England, Kent Island, Queen Anne County, Maryland and Talbot County, Maryland