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Robert (Grosvenor) le Grosvenor (bef. 1407 - 1465)

Robert le Grosvenor formerly Grosvenor
Born before in Allostock, Cheshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Husband of — married 1415 in Cheshire, Englandmap
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Died after age 58 in Allostock, Cheshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Robert le Grosvenor[1] [2]

Robert Grosvenor was born circa 1407 (at his father's inquisition post mortem in 1430, Robert was said to be aged 23 years or more[2]).

He was the son of Thomas le Grosvenor, Kt,[1] and his wife, Joan Venables.

On 5 July, 1415, a recognizance was enrolled at Chester for 400l by Thomas le Grosvenor, Kt, Laurence de Merbury, Kt, William de Venables, of Kynderton, John Hope, of Chester, Roger de Mulynton, armiger, John de Manley, armiger, John de Pull, Kt, Richard de Mascy, of Podynton, and John de Legh, of Legh, to Laurence Fyton, Kt, that Thomas observe the covenants of an indenture entered into by him with Laurence touching the marriage of Robert son and heir of Thomas, with Joan daughter of Laurence.[1]

Robert and Joan had children:

  1. Elizabeth le Grosvenor, born 1431, who was married before 7 March, 1464/5, to Peter de Dutton[3] of Hatton;[4]
  2. Emma le Grosvenor, born 1433, who was married before 7 March, 1464/5, to (1) John de Legh[3] del Boothes and (2) Ralph Egerton 1474;
  3. Agnes le Grosvenor, born 1436, not married on 7 March, 1464/5,[3] who was married to William Stanley of Hooton;
  4. Margery le Grosvenor, born 1438,not married on 7 March, 1464/5,[3] died unmarried in 1474;
  5. Katharine le Grosvenor, born 1441, who was married before 7 March, 1464/5, to Richard Wynyngton[3] of Wynnington; and
  6. Margeret le Grosvenor, born 1443, who was married before 7 March, 1464/5, to Thomas Laycester[3] of Tabley c. 1464;

On 2 May, 1430, a writ of livery was issued to Robert, the son and next heir of Thomas le Grosvenor, after an inquisition post mortem for Thomas held at Chester found he died on Friday next before the Feast of the Purification of St Mary "last past" [27 January, 1429] holding the manor of Hulme and other properties of William de Holford, the manor of Pulford and other properties of the Earl of Chester, in capite, by knight's service, the manor of Buyrton of Thomas de Stanley, esq, and Matilda his wife, in Matilda's right, as of her manor of Aldeford, and more.[2]

On 14 January, 1464/5, a writ diem clausit extremum was issued on the death of Robert Grosvenor, esq.[5]

Robert's wife, Joan, had livery of dower on 27 February, 1464/5.[5]

An writ of ouster le main issued on 7 March, 1464/8, set forth an inquisition which found that Robert died on the Wednesday next after the Feast after the Epiphany "last" past [9 January, 1465].[5]

The Grosvenor Inheritance

On 7 March, 1464/5, Peter de Dutton and Elizabeth his wife, Emma wife of John de Legh, Agnes le Grosvenor, Margery le Grosvenor, Katharine wife of Richard Wynyngton, and Margaret wife of Thomas Laycester, had a writ of livery setting forth an inquisition, finding that Robert Grosvenor, armiger, died seized in his demesne, as of fee, of the manor of Hulme, held of Thomas Holford, in socage; a moiety of one messuage and thirty acres of land in Bancroft, held also of Thomas, in socage; of three messuages and one carucate of land in Dunham-Mascy, held of the Earl of Chester by knight's service; land with two messuages in Ketilshulme within the forest of Macclesfield held of the Earl of Chester, according to the custom of the forest; of the manor of Pulford, and eighty acres of land in Claverton, with the advowson of the church of Pulford, held of the Earl of Chester, by knight's service; of the manor of Buyrton, held of John Stanley, Kt, as of his manor of Aldeford, by fealty and doing suit at his court of Aldeford; of a third of the manor of Waverton, held of the Abbot of Chester, in socage; of a 4th part of the manor of Cholley, held of John Sutton, Kt, in socage; of an eighth part of the manor of Broxon, held of John Sutton, Kt, in socage; of two messuages and ten acres of land in Aldresay, held of the said John, in socage; of 4d annual rent in Elton, held of John Stanley, Kt, as of his manor of Aldeford, in socage; of a garden in the city of Chester, held of the Earl of Chester, in socage; of a plot of land and moor called “ Sondelemosse" in the town of Netherpevere, containing 100 acres, held of the Earl of Chester, as of the lordship of Halton, by knight's service; of a moiety of the site of a water-mill in Netherpevere containing one acre, held of the Earl of Chester, as of the lordship of Halton, by knight's service; of two burgages and one acre of land in Knottesford, held of Thomas Holes, in socage; of one messuage and sixteen acres of land in Allostok, held of the Abbot of Vale-Royal, in socage; of one salt pit, one messuage, and four acres of land in Northwich, held of William Stanley, Kt, as feoffee of Henry Duke of Exeter, in socage; and of 3s. annual rent in Middlewich, held of the Earl of Chester in socage; that the said Robert died on the Wednesday next after the feast of the Epiphany “last” past, and Robert's daughters and heirs were Elizabeth aged thirty-four, Emma thirty-two, Agnes twenty-nine, Margery twenty-seven, Katharine twenty-four, and Margaret twenty-two.[3]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Peter Turner, comp, "Appendix II: No 1. Welsh Records: Calendar of Recognizance Rolls of the Palatinate of Chester, from the beginning of the reign of Henry V to the end of the reign of Henry VII", The Thirty-Seventh Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records [9 March 1876] (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1876), 323. e-book HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015011704189?urlappend=%3Bseq=547%3Bownerid=13510798900606340-591 : accessed 27 October, 2022).
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Peter Turner, comp, "Appendix II: No 1. Welsh Records: Calendar of Recognizance Rolls of the Palatinate of Chester, from the beginning of the reign of Henry V to the end of the reign of Henry VII," The Thirty-Seventh Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records [9 March 1876] (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1876), 324-25. e-book HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015011704189?urlappend=%3Bseq=548%3Bownerid=13510798900606340-594 : accessed 4 January, 2022). [8 & 9 Hen. 6. m. 3 d. (1).]
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Peter Turner, comp, "Appendix II: No 1. Welsh Records: Calendar of Recognizance Rolls of the Palatinate of Chester, from the beginning of the reign of Henry V to the end of the reign of Henry VII," The Thirty-Seventh Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records [9 March 1876] (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1876), 238-39. e-book HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015011704189?urlappend=%3Bseq=462%3Bownerid=13510798900606340-500 : accessed 5 January, 2022). [4 & 5 Edw. 4. m. 4 d. (1).]
  4. George Ormerod, The history of Chester, etc, Archive.org, Ed. Lackington, and Hughes, Vol. III, (London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1819), [1] pp.87-88.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Peter Turner, comp, "Appendix II: No 1. Welsh Records: Calendar of Recognizance Rolls of the Palatinate of Chester, from the beginning of the reign of Henry V to the end of the reign of Henry VII," The Thirty-Seventh Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records [9 March 1876] (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1876), 327. e-book HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015011704189?urlappend=%3Bseq=551%3Bownerid=13510798900606340-597 : accessed 5 January, 2022). [4 & 5 Edw. 4. m. 4 (5).]




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Le Grosvenor-18 and Grosvenor-23 appear to represent the same person because: Fixes LNAB, dup son of Thomas Grosvenor. Sources in le grosvenor-18
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