Robert
Lewis
Born in Llandough, Glamorganshire, Wales
Ancestors 
Son of William Lewis Sr.
and Sarah (Cathcart) Lewis
Husband of
Ann (Cosens) Lewis
— married
11 Jan 1640 in St Mary Abchurch with St Lawrence Pountney, London, England
Descendants 
Father of
Richard Lewis
Died [date unknown]
[location unknown]
Profile last modified
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Biography
A principle source for the children of William Lewis/Lewys of Wales, including Robert, is Harriet Southworth Lewis Barnes in her "Lewis with Collateral Lines" book.[1]. Unfortunately she does not quote primary sources and includes a "lineage" back to about the year 1,000, but she does at least acknowledge the uncertainty of her work.
The other main source quoted for this family is "The ancestors and descendants of Deacon Daniel and Lovina Hovey Williams of Wethersfield, Connecticut, Whitestown, Lima, and Rush, New York, and Grand Blanc, Michigan, 1647-1964 : and their collateral kin" by Deward Charles Williams.[2] Williams seems to be sourcing from Barnes, he includes only minimal information on this family and it all matches Barnes so he will not be treated separately.
Birth
An unsupported birthdate of 2 Jan 1603 has been asserted on this profile taken from Barnes.
Uncertain Marriage
A birth year of 1603 proposed by Barnes does not conflict with his proposed 1639 marriage to Anne Cosens. He is noted as a widower age 36, so a second marriage at age 36 is plausible. Why would Robert have moved from Wales to London? Uncertain but Barnes also claims without source that Robert's brother Christopher moved to London.
The marriage record of 11 Jan 1639/40 at St. Mary Abchurch, London said this as transcribed on ancestry.com:
11 Jan 1639-40 Robert Lewes, Gent., of Trinity, Minories, Widower, 36, & Anne Cosens, of St Mary Abchurch, Spinster, 25 (or 15 ?), her father dead; consent of mother Mary Jacobson alias Cosens, ux. Jacob Jacobson, of same; at St Mary Abchurch.[3]
This record should also be available for viewing with an on-site visit to a Family History Library on digital films 374483 or 416710.
Nothing more is stated about Robert's descendants or death by Barnes. A death year of 1645 was originally asserted on this profile without source.
To her credit, Barnes admits that the William Lewis of Connecticut may have come from a different source and that this lineage is in dispute. She also notes that the names of the brothers of William (of Penarth) i.e. Christopher and Robert do not appear in the first five generatios of the Connecticut Lewis family, a noteable absence.
Research Notes
However, it must be noted that a Robert Lewes, son of Robert Lewes, was christened at St. Mary Abchurch on 16 Oct 1608.[4] This man would have been 32 insead of 36 at his marriage, so maybe this record is for a different family.
Likely the same Robert Lewes Sr. of London had a daughter Alice christened at St. Mary Abchurch on 1 Jul 1610[5] followed possibly by Margaret on 11 Jun 1611 (findmypast.co.uk does not specify which church and parish) but this name is so common that without more information it is hard to be sure.
Sources
- ↑ Barnes, Harriet Southworth Lewis. Lewis with Collateral Lines... Philadelphia, PA: Southworth Lewis Publication, 1910.pp. 5-10
- ↑ The ancestors and descendants of Deacon Daniel and Lovina Hovey Williams of Wethersfield, Connecticut, Whitestown, Lima, and Rush, New York, and Grand Blanc, Michigan, 1647-1964 : and their collateral kin by Deward Charles Williams 1964 p. 191
- ↑ "London, England, Extracted Church of England Parish Records", Collection: London Marriage Licences, 1611-1828 ; via Ancestry.com. London, England, Extracted Church of England Parish Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.$subscription and link to free image courtesy of ancestry.com
- ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQ2X-SZ9 : 19 September 2020), Roberte Lewies, 1608.
- ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JS15-B53 : 19 September 2020), Alce Lewies, 1610.
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I think the 1675 attestation by Wm Jr of his trip to Wales to bring sister Ann Stiles back to New England says volumes about Captain Wm's parentage, and even relation to Robert and his brother... but not as much as some authentic parish birth records.
edited by b Paulson
Improving on what Barnes left us...
In the exact words of the author Harriet Barnes (linked in Sources on this profile)...
"This claim has been the subject of considerable discussion, and has been discredited by some genealogists, and the one who makes the claim has written "in regard to the very early Welsh generations, i.e, from about 1000 to 1528, these are, to a very great extent practically hearsays, as the Welsh did not , so far as we know, have any documentary proof of connections at this early date. Lines of descent were carried down from fathers to sons, and appear in the songs of the Welsh bards, and are generally accepted by the Welsh, who probably know more about it than we do. This is not calculated to establish our faith in the early generations, and there is ample room to doubt the identity of William Lewis, of Farmington, Conn, with the William, son of William and Sarah (Cathcart) Lewis, of Penarth, Wales. "There are said to be a number of English marriages from which William of Farmington might have come, and it is noticeable that the names of the brothers William of Penarth, Wales -Christopher and Robert, - do not appear among the descendants of William of Farmington within the first five generations. This would bring up a question as to whether William of Farmington was the one who came on the ship Lion, in 1632, but this has been so universally accepted we would not attempt to dispute it. A suggestion made by Mr. Carl A. Lewis of Guilford, Conn. (publisher of Lewisianna) is that "At Hartford, Conn. among old records, especially the Probate Records, are mentioned papers on file in connection with private controversies. Here is a mine not yet worded to any extent, and yet there have been a few references that there are here Lewis papers both of William, Sr. and his son, Captain William. Possibly here a clue to family connection may yet be found. The line begins in this country of the united states with William Lewis... presumably first son of William and Sarah (Cathcart) Lewis of Penarth, Wales... "
In Fall of 2020, I forwarded the work of a professional genealogist (a published pedigree of Wm Lewis who m. Sarah Cathcart), to the Center for Study of Ancient Wales. They responded pretty much the same as Harriet Barns, that the genealogist's work was commendable, represents a giant effort, but lead not to fathers but uncles, and that no link can be found that William of Farmington was son of Edward Lewis of Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales. These connections, they said, exist only in the family claims of Internet trees.
The Welsh Center also said there are no evidence that Cathcart-9 is dau of William b. 1538 of Penarth; for whom no record show a daughter named Sarah b. abt. 1570.
the attached sources support a narrative for a son of Robert at east c 1627 baptized 1608 in London. Perhaps instead of the bio body, such a proposal deserves a =Research= heading?
I see that you put some comments on Cathcart-9. One of the sources on there, Pioneer Lewis Families "https://books.google.com/books?id=rWwbAQAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Cathcart" for a snippet claims that a Cathcard deeded land to William Lewis, husband of Sarah (maybe) Cathcart who then deeded the land to his son Christopher. If that's true it would be an interesting clue.