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Walkelin Maminot (abt. 1100 - abt. 1156)

Walkelin "Walcheline" Maminot aka Maminoht
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Died about at about age 56 [location unknown]
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Biography

"Some of the rebels were brought to heel by negotiation. Walchelin Maminot, himself an early convert to Stephen, but linked to Robert of Gloucester in both Kent and the March, was closely blockaded in Dover Castle by sea and land by forces commanded by the queen. He was eventually talked over by his father-in-law, Robert de Ferrers, who had witnessed both the defeat of the Scots and the fall of Shrewsbury, and who had then joined Queen Mathilda in Kent to convince Walchelin of the futility of further resistance. Apparently Ralph Louvel of Castle Cary was also brought to surrender by threats and persuasion rather than force." [1]

Property

Manor of Saye's Court
"Gilbert de Magminot (or Maminot, as this name was afterwards more frequently spelt) fixed the scite of his barony here, which therefore was afterwards esteemed caput baroniæ, or head of the barony, and he erected a castle on it, as was usual in those days, every part of which has been long since buried in its own ruins; though some remains of stony foundations seem to point out the situation of it, near Saye's-court, in Bromfield, on the bank of the Thames, near the mast dock. His grandson, Wakelin, died without issue, in the third year of king Richard I. having been a good benefactor to the monks of Bermondsey, to whom, in the year 1157, he gave ten shillings rent, out of the mill of Deptford. On his death his sister* Alice became his coheir, and brought this place, with much other inheritance, to her husband Geoffrey, second son of William de Saye, (fn. 8) who granted this manor of West Greenwich (as it was then called) with the advowson of the church and its appurtenances to the Knights Templars, in pure and perpetual alms.
His son Geoffrey regained the possession of it by giving the Knights Templars that of Sadlescombe, in Suffex, for it. He ratified to the canons of Begham the lands of Brocele, which were part of his barony, and the church of St. Nicholas, at Greenwich, which his father had given to them. Geoffrey de Saye, last mentioned, being in arms against king John, with others of the barons, in the 17th year of that reign, his lands and fees, lying in Kent and elsewhere, were given to Peter de Crohun, though after the death of the king he was taken into favour, and his lands were restored in the 8th year of king Henry III. (fn. 9)"[2]
  • The Alice in question is Walkelin Jr's cousin.
Birling Manor
"Ralph de Curva Spina, or Crookthorne, as his name was Englished, resided at Comport, or Comford-park, in the north-east part of this parish, where this family continued till the reign of king Henry II. when they were succeeded in their possessions here by that of Magminot. (fn. 2) Walkelin de Magminot died without issue in the third year of king Richard I. anno 1191, and Alice, his sister* became his heir, who carried this manor in marriage to her husband Geoffry, second son of William de Say, who in her right became likewise possessed of large estates at Deptford, Cowdham, and elsewhere in this county. (fn. 3) His descendant, William de Say, died possessed of the manor of Birling, in the 23d year of king Edward I. holding it in capite by barony, and in some old deeds Birling is stiled caput baroniæ de Say, that is the capital seat of his barony."[3]
  • Alice is cousin to Walkelin Jr.

Notes

Juliane de Vere is still married to Hugh Bigod, in the early 1140s, when they have a son. Walkelin Jr is born before that. He must be the son of Walkelin Sr's first wife.

Sources

  1. The Reign of King Stephen: 1135-1154, By David Crouch, p 79 [1]
  2. Edward Hasted, 'Parishes: Deptford,' in The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 1 (Canterbury: W Bristow, 1797), 340-371, accessed March 12, 2016, [2]
  3. Edward Hasted, 'Parishes: Birling,' in The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 4 (Canterbury: W Bristow, 1798), 474-488, accessed March 15, 2016, [3]
  • FMG [4]
  • Chippenham & Stanleigh Deeds: 1213/1 [5]




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Juliana's first marriage ended when her husband had it annulled. She then married Walkelin. The 1138 birthday for their son is wrong and needs to be corrected.
posted by Kevin Nauta

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