John S Mann Jr (1743 - 1828)

Born 25 Dec 1743 in Hebron, Hartford, Connecticut

Ancestors

Husband of Lydia Helen Tarbox (Porter) Mann — married 17 Feb 1765 in Hebron, Hartford, Connecticut

Descendants

Died 9 May 1828 at age 84 in Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire, United States

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Biography

Captain John Mann Jr served with 3rd Regiment, New Hampshire Militia during the American Revolution.

Headstone Inscription:

Founder of Orford

A child's Birth Card names father: "Capt. John Mann"

no record found to back this up

United States Revolutionary War Rolls

Capt. Gordon's Company

Name John Mann

Event Type Military Service

Event Date 20 Sep 1776

Event Place New Hampshire, United States

Event Place (Original) New Hampshire, United States

Citing this Record

United States Revolutionary War Rolls

Name John Mann

Event Type Military Service

Event Date 04 Jun 1782

Event Place New Hampshire, United States

Event Place (Original) New Hampshire, United States

Citing this Record

John Mann was born about 1743/1744, according to his gravestone.^[1], and 25 Dec 1743 according to "Genealogy of Mann Family".^[2]

Birth

Connecticut Births and Christenings

Name John Man

Birth Date 25 Dec 1743

Father's Name John

Citing this Record

familysearch.org does not have a photo of the original, just the data entry giving "Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906,"

So the below statement, regarding being born England is unfounded, unless of course there are 2 John Mann's born Dec 25 1743.

It is unclear where he was born, some suggest England. However it is more likely that he was already in the Americas. He may have been the son John of John Mann and Margaret Peters of Hebron, Connecticut.^[2]

Marriage

"New Hampshire Marriage Records, 1637-1947,"

Name John Mann

Event Date 16 Feb 1765

Event Place Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire

Spouse's Name Lydia Porter

Citing this Record ^[3]

This statement is now proven. There is a "New Hampshire Marriage Records, 1637-1947," Record that verifies the place of marriage............They are not just "one of the original Founders", he is noted as "THE" original Founder.

According to "Genealogy of the Mann family",^[2] they moved to Orford, New Hampshire in October 1765 and were one of the original founders of the town. This is also supported by the gravestone.^[1] (Note this suggests they married elsewhere, presumably Hebron.)

Children

Lydia gave birth to 15 children

New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900

1. Name: John B: 21 May 1766---Birthplace Orford, Grafton
2. Name Solomon Birth Date 19 Aug 1768---Birthplace Orford, Grafton
3. Name: Jared Birth Date 06 Nov 1770---Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
4. Name: Ira Birth Date 08 Sep 1772---Birthplace Orford, Grafton
5. NAME: Aaron Birth Date 21 Jul 1774--Birthplace Orford, Grafton
6. Name: Lydia Birth Date 17 Sep 1776 --Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
7. Name Sarah Birth Date 04 Jun 1778---Birthplace Orford, Grafton
8. Name: Nathaniel Birth Date 29 Dec 1779--Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
9. Name Benning Birth Date 25 Nov 1781 --B:Orford, Grafton,
10. Name: Asaph Birth Date 30 Sep 1783 B:Orford, Grafton
11. Name: Cyrus Birth Date 03 Apr 1785---Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
12. Name: Joel Birth Date 07 Feb 1789 Birthplace Orford, Grafton
13. Name:Abijah B: Date: 03 Apr 1791--(???just 3 months after the other baby???) Orford,

f-a-g memorial lists Phebe b:1787 Mar: Samuel Sargent.................(see below Birth)

Also "an infant son"

....... and that is as far as f-a-g goes...the others that have Birth Cards are not listed....

And Lydia died 1802 so she could have given birth to the others, OR their son John Jr. also married a Lydia and they had the rest of these babies.

YES, he indeed married Lydia Dutton in 1788............

1. Name: John Mann Birth Date 15 Feb 1788 ---Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
2. Name: Lydia Mann Birth Date 19 Jan 1791 --Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
3. Name Timothy Mann Birth Date 18 Dec 1792 --Birthplace Orford, Grafton
4. Name: Lucy Mann Birth Date 24 Mar 1795--:Birthplace Orford, Grafton,
5. Name Sophia Mann Birth Date 04 May 1797 --Birthplace Orford, Grafton
6. Name Silas Mann Birth Date 19 Mar 1799 --Birthplace Orford, Grafton
7. Name: Clara Mann Birth Date 24 Jul 1801--:Birthplace Orford, Grafton

All Birth CARDS found on familysearch.org (seems to be 20 not 15)

All Children with same FATHER/MOTHER

Father's Name Capt John Mann OR just John..........

Mother's Name Lydia

Registration Place Orford, Grafton

LISTED on f-a-g

"New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900,"

Name: Phebe Mann

Birth Date 25 Nov 1788

Birthplace Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire, United States

Father's Name Solomon Mann

Mother's Name Phebe

Registration Place Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire, United States

Citing this Record: "New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLPT-15Q : 10 March 2018), Phebe Mann, 25 Nov 1788; citing Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire, United States, Bureau of Vital Records and Health Statistics, Concord; FHL microfilm 1,001,019.

"Massachusetts Deaths, 1841-1915,"

Name Mary J. Gill

Event Type Death

Event Date 28 Feb 1870

Event Place Shrewsbury, Massachusetts

Residence Place Shrewsbury, Mass.

Gender Female

Age 53

Marital Status Married

Occupation Housewife

Birthplace Oxford, N. H. (ORFORD)

Birth Year (Estimated) 1817

Father's Name Samuel Sargent

Father's Birthplace Oxford, N. H.

Mother's Name Phebe Mann ( # 147147443)

Mother's Birthplace Oxford, N. H.

Citing this Record: "Massachusetts Deaths, 1841-1915," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N72Z-ZBQ : 10 March 2018), Phebe Mann in entry for Mary J. Gill, 28 Feb 1870; citing Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, v 231 p 308, State Archives, Boston; FHL microfilm 960,197.

Narrative by Joel Mann

"John 2nd, son of John, born December 25th, 1743, married Lydia Porter, of Hebron, daughter of John Porter, 19 years of age, born March 17th, 1746, and moved with her on horse- back to Orford, New Hampshire, in October, 1765, and were the first permanent settlers of the town. Their children born in Orford were, John, Solomon, Jared, Ira, Aaron, Lydia, Sa- rah, Nathaniel, Penning, Asaph, Cyrus, Phebe, Joel, Abijah, and one son lived but a few hours after his birth."

"Something should be said here of the parents of those fifteen children before proceeding to notice the children and their families. When a large portion of the State of New Hampshire was a wilderness, and lands in the town of Orford were surveyed and offered for sale, John Mann soon after his marriage went there from Hebron, Connecticut, and took possession of a lot on Connecticut River, given to him by his father. A dense forest covered the whole region except a few spots which had been cleared by the Indians, on which they had raised corn. Here, with his resolute and faithful com- panion, he pitched his tent, built a log-house, and began to fell the stately trees of primeval growth, some of the pines be- ing 200 feet in height. The journey of these pioneers was indeed a lonely and fatiguing one, the last sixty miles of it being without a road, the crooked foot-path obstructed by fallen trees, and no bridges across the streams. In some of the towns along the way there were two or three families with whom they staid at night, who received them cordially and refreshed them with their homely fare. They arrived at the place where thev made their future home on the 24th of October, 1765. A family had come there a few months previously, had reared a hut covered with bark, with whom they passed the winter. That family moved away, so that Mr. Mann and wife were the first abiding or permanent settlers of the town. Removed as they were from all places for obtaining the conveniences and comforts of life, they had to rely on their bwn ingenuity and efforts to obtain only a small portion of what was needed. A few chairs and a bedstead, and some- thing for a table, were indispensable articles. An abundance of timber was everywhere around them, but no saw-mill to to convert it into lumber. No. wagon-roads were constructed on which articles for housekeeping could be transported. No canals were cut around the numerous falls in the river for the ascent of water craft. The soil had not been relieved of the deep shade that had lain upon it for ages, and the enlivening rays of the sun let in upon it ; and no harvest had taken the place of the towering forest."^[4]

Death

New Hampshire Death Records

Name John Mann

Event Date (Original) 9 May 1828

Event Date 09 May 1828

Event Place Orford

Age 34

Birth Year (Estimated) 1794

Clerk's Jurisdiction Place Orford, , New Hampshire

Citing this Record (copy of card att'd)

John Mann died on 9 May 1828, at age 84, and was buried at Orford Village Cemetery, Orford, Grafton County, New Hampshire, USA.^[1] (Some records suggest he died in Scituate, Massachusetts.)

Object

Object:  :: File: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=fd97f991-9549-42cb-815c-16b43e0735f8&tid=66396432&pid=143 Format: pdf  :: Title: The Mann Family-by Amelia Wells Washburn

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 22 January 2019), memorial page for John S Mann (25 Dec 1743–9 May 1828), Find A Grave: Memorial #83350708, citing West Cemetery, Orford, Grafton County, New Hampshire, USA ; Maintained by LadyGoshen (contributor 46951894) .
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} p.8 in Joel Mann, "Genealogy of the Mann Family" https://archive.org/stream/genealogyofmannf00mann#page/n21/mode/2up
3. ↑ John Mann. "New Hampshire Marriage Records, 1637-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLF4-YMT : 12 December 2014), John Mann and Lydia Porter, 16 Feb 1765; citing Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire, Bureau of Vital Records and Health Statistics, Concord; FHL microfilm 1,001,282.
4. ↑ Genealogy of the Mann family by Mann, Joel, 1789-1884, https://archive.org/details/genealogyofmannf1873mann/page/8/mode/2up

1. "Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F732-M53 : 11 February 2018), John Man, 25 Dec 1743; citing Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, United States; FHL microfilm 1,376,165.
2. Oath of Allegiance New Hampshire
3. "United States Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL6Y-5JZ8 : 15 March 2018), John Mann, 20 Sep 1776; citing 20 Sep 1776, New Hampshire, United States, citing NARA microfilm publication M246. Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Services, 1980. FHL microfilm 830,331.
4. "United States Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL6Y-5T1Q : 15 March 2018), John Mann, 04 Jun 1782; citing 04 Jun 1782, New Hampshire, United States, citing NARA microfilm publication M246. Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Services, 1980. FHL microfilm 830,332.
5. "New Hampshire Death Records, 1654-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FS2G-Y8M : 10 March 2018), John Mann, 09 May 1828; citing Orford, Bureau Vital Records and Health Statistics, Concord; FHL microfilm 1,001,093.
6. "New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLPT-B3Y : 10 March 2018), John Mann in entry for Benning, 25 Nov 1781; citing Orford, Grafton, New Hampshire, United States, Bureau of Vital Records and Health Statistics, Concord; FHL microfilm 1,001,019.

• The Granite Monthly A New Hampshire Magazine (The Granite Monthly Co., Concord, NH) Vol. 1, Page 98.