Christiaan (van Suratte) Victor
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Christiaan (van Suratte) Victor (1699)

Christiaan Victor formerly van Suratte
Born in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Ancestors ancestors
Brother of [half], [half] and [half]
Husband of — married 17 Oct 1728 in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Husband of — married 4 Jun 1730 in Cape Town, de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Table Bay, South Africa (1762)
Christiaan (van Suratte) Victor was part of the settlement of the Dutch Cape Colony.
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Biography

Name

"After 29 October 1697 Candas van Pattana and Cornelis Victor were in a de facto relationship I have assumed this relationship because their putative child, Christiaan, goes on to use Victor as his last name. While not conclusive evidence, it is true that many slave children born of white fathers identified themselves, or were identified by others, as children of their biological fathers in this way." [1]
"7 June 1699, the name of Christiaan was written in the record as Christiaan van de Caep" [1]

Birth

Reference code: C. 71, pp. 145−153. Dingsdag pmo. Augustus 1724, voormiddags.
Wel Edele Gestrenge Heere en E.E. Heeren,
Geeven met veel eerbied aan UE. Wel Ed. Gestr. en E. Agtb. te kennen de ondergetekende burgerraaden, dat eenen onvrij gebooren, met namen gedoopt Christiaan, door den burger Jacobus Victor salr., des tegenwoordige huijsvrouw van den burger smid, Jan Gerritsz, geweese eerste man, bij een slavin van hem is verwekt, en tot dus lang onder de weeskamer gestaan, nu kortelings zijne mondige jaaren bereijkt, en van de gemt. camer is ontslagen, hebbende onderwijlen bij voorsz Jan Gerritsz, die hem benevens zijn huijsvrouw als een stiefsoon hebben aangenomen, 't smits handwerk geleert, in 't welke hij wacker gevordert is, als hebbende 't seedert Januarij deeses jaars voor beijde de moolens en andere benodigtheeden deeser Colonie helpen smeeden, en nademaal al sulken ambachtsman voor deese Colonie zeer dienstig is, uijt dien hoofde zoo komen de presente burgerraaden UE. Wel Edele Gestrenge en E. Agtb. ootmoedig versoeken dat denselven smit Christiaan mag onder de burgerij deeser Colonie ingeschreeven werden....... [2]

Baptism

Date:
7 Juny 1699
van Candares van Suratte, slavin
van Gerrit Victor, onder getuyge
van Joost Ventura, en Maria van
Bengale, gent.
- Christiaan [3]

Marriage

Marriage 1
1728 17e ditto {Octob:r} Christiaan Victor van Cabo de Goede Hoop, jongm:,met Margareta van Wieling van Cabo voor:nt, jonge dogter. [4]
Groom: Christiaan Victor [4]
Bride: Margareta van Wieling [4]
Event Date: 17 October 1728 [4]
Event Place: Cape Town, Dutch Reformed Church, Caep de Goede Hoop, Dutch Cape Colony [South Africa] [4]
Marriage 2
A:o 1730 .....{.}4e Junij Christiaan Victor van Cabo de Goede Hoop, burger alhier, wed:ur, met Catharina Kervel van Cabo voorn:t, jonge dogter. [5]
Groom: Christiaan Victor - widower [5]
Bride: Catharina Kervel [5]
Event Date: 4 June 1730[5]
Event Place: Cape Town, Dutch Reformed Church, Caep de Goede Hoop, Dutch Cape Colony [South Africa] [5]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Source: Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ Page: Candas van Pattana. Seen and added by Phlilip van der Walt Aug 19, 2016.
  2. Resolutions of the Council of Policy of Cape of Good Hope Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa.Reference code: C. 71, pp. 145−153. Seen and entered April 25, 2017 by Susanna de Bruyn
  3. The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/ : accessed 19 Aug 2016), "Cape Town Baptisms 1695-1712 (Burgher Slave Baptisms 1696-1712)", baptism entry for Christiaan [van de Caep, 7 Jun 1699, p. 76]; citing Cape Archives Verbatim Copies VC 603, Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk. Original registers are located in the NG Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch as G1 1/1. VC 603 is a photocopy made during the 1980s of the original, made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copy going to the Cape Town repository and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series). The original register is now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1 1/1. The transcription was originally made in 2006 by Richard Ball. Corrections were received from Delia Robertson and Alwyn Smit and Corney Keller had now completely revised and amended the original transcript (February 2012). Seen and added by Philip van der Walt Aug 19, 2016.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions. Source: Cape Town Marriages 1728. Written by transcribed by Corney Keller.page 17. This transcription has been made from photographs of the Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 621 - Cape Town marriages and memberships 1713-1756, which is a photocopy of the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-13/1. This photocopy was made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copy going to the Cape Town Repository (VC series) and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series). The marriages cover pages 1 through 95 of this register. Posted in Cape Town Marriages 1713 to 1756. Seen and entered April 25, 2017 by Susanna de Bruyn
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions. Source:Cape Town Marriages 1730. page 30. This transcription has been made from photographs of the Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 621 - Cape Town marriages and memberships 1713-1756, which is a photocopy of the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-13/1. This photocopy was made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copy going to the Cape Town Repository (VC series) and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series). The marriages cover pages 1 through 95 of this register.Written by transcribed by Corney Keller. Posted in Cape Town Marriages 1713 to 1756 Seen and entered April 25, 2017 by Susanna de Bruyn




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But as he was born in the Cape, then van de Caep would be more appropriate ... but then again wasn't it also custom for the name of the foster parent, in this case the grandfather (even if the boy was still in bondage) that he would get Victor ... van Suratte is a toponymic and doesn't seem to fit the bill on hindsight.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Hi Philip Please see the entry under the heading = Name:

You state there that the mother and child was in a de facto relationship.

PPP and added Ready

Still need to enhance with a death record.

Correct parents : Correct Spouses

Not all the children are added

Delia say:

7 June 1699, the name of Christiaan was written in the record as Christiaan van de Caep.

But this is her reference and I fail to see van de Caep anywhere:

Her Ref: Burger Slave Baptisms, 1696-1712: 7 Juny 1699. van Candares van Suratte, slavin van Gerrit Victor, onder getuyge van Joost Ventura, en Maria van Bengale, gent. — Christiaan, transcribed by Corney Keller, Genealogical Society of South Africa, eGSSA Branch http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/.

:-) Ja nou is ek 'n bietjie deurmekaar ... dankie Ronel ... van Suratte would probably be ok. What does Delia say?
posted by Philip van der Walt
Aha.. fascinating.. so the Gerrit Victor mentioned at the baptism, was actually his grandfather .. looking at the baptism, and with this info, the name van Suratte looks fine to me as well. It only says she was a slavin of Gerrit Victor, it doesn't say he was the father of the child. So I assume it's ready for PPP now eeh :)

Thanks Ronel !

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
See baptismal record transcript Philip The father was not mentioned only the mother and the owner of the slave child. He was only set free at the age of 25 by his owner Gerrit Victor (also his grandfather ) LNAB should be exactly as can be seen on the baptismal record or have I got it "deurmekaar" ? If so let me know and I will change it to Victor Thanks R
Ok ... so it should be van de Caep ?
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Isn't it supposed to be Victor (see bio) ...
posted by Philip van der Walt
Added Needs PPP now, when it's PPP't the PPP part can be changed to Research eeh :)

lekker dag and looks like a pretty confusing puzzle to me this one,

Thanks both :)

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma

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