Roger (Cheyne) de Cheyne (abt. 1295 - aft. 1328)

[CFR EII] 24 October 1314 Spalding. Commitment during pleasure to Roger de Cheigny of the counties of Salop and Stafford and the castles of Shrewsbury and Bruges from Michaelmas last. Order to all persons to be intendant to him as sheriff and keeper. Order to Hugh de Audelegh to deliver the same to him.

[CFR EII] 4 December 1314 Berkhampsted. Commitment during pleasure to William de Mere of the counties of Salop and Stafford and the castles of Shrewsbury and Bruges from Michaelmas last. Order to all persons to be intendant to him as sheriff and keeper. Order to Roger de Cheygny to deliver the same to him.

[CPR EII] 8 February 1315 Westminster. Commission of oyer and terminer to John Chaynal, Richard de Harleye and Roger de Cheyney, on complaint by Thomas Hastanges touching the persons who forcibly broke his park at Mudele, county Salop, hunted therein without his licence, and carried away his deer, and drove away 24 mares, 16 colts and 80 oxen of the value of 200 marks.

[CFR EII] 2 March 1315 Westminster. Commitment during pleasure to Roger Cheigny of the counties of Salop and Stafford and the castles of Shrewsbury and Bruges, from Easter next. Order to all persons to be intendant to him as sheriff and keeper. Order to William de Mere to deliver the same to him.

[CFR EII] 1 September 1315 Lincoln. Commitment during pleasure to Ralph de Crophull of the counties of Salop and Stafford and the castles of Shrewsbury and Bruges, from Michaelmas next. Order to all persons to be intendant to him as sheriff and keeper. Order to Roger de Cheigny to deliver the same to him.

[CPR EII] 24 September 1321 Westminster. Pardon to Roger de Chenney the son [of Roger], Philip de Chenneye and Roger de Chenney, pursuant to the agreement lately made in Parliament last Midsummer, of any actions by reason of anything done against Hugh le Despenser, the son, and Hugh le Despenser, the father, between 1 March and 19 August last.

[CFR EIII] 22 January 1322 Shrewsbury. Order to the sheriff of Salop and Stafford to take into the king' hand and to keep safely until further order all the lands, goods and chattels of Roger de Cheyne, in his bailiwick, so that he answer for the issues thereof in the chamber.

[CPR EII] 7 August 1322 Newminster. Grant to Edmund, earl of Arundel, of Roger Cheyny, knight, a rebel, and also of all his lands and goods, which had been taken into the king's hands.

[CPR EII] 8 January 1327 Kenilworth. Commission of oyer and terminer to Roger de Cheyny and Griffin Thloyt, on complaint by the men and tenants of the commonality of the land of Dynebegh, by petition in Parliament, that whereas Henry de Lacy, sometime earl of Lincoln and lord of that land, by charter, granted to them and their heirs and under-tenants dwelling: in his lands and fees in the cantreds of Ros and Ryvonyawc, and in the commote of Kymmerch, both English and Welsh, licence to hunt and carry away deer and beasts of the woods in the said lands and fees, except in certain manors, woods, pastures and wastes specified in the charter, as well as divers other liberties specified therein; and whereas they enjoyed these liberties in the time of the said earl and of Thomas, earl of Lancaster, afterwards lord of the said land; Hugh le Despenser, into whose hands the land came on the death of the said Thomas, totally prevented them from enjoying these liberties and they still are prevented from doing so; the king, into whose hands the said land has now come by the forfeiture of Hugh, will remedy this. The inquisition is to be made in the presence of the keeper of the said land or his lieutenant, by jury of the counties of Engelfeld and Snaudon, and of the lands of Dyffrencloyth and Dynmael adjoining thereto, and justice to be done.

[CPR EII] 10 March 1327 Westminster. Commission of oyer and terminer to Roger de Baskervill, Robert Sturmy and William de Weston, on complaint by Roger de Chenney and Margery, his wife, that William de Muriden and others named, in the time of the late king, and detained her in prison until her husband paid a fine of 120 marks for her release.

[CPR EIII] 3 May 1328 Northampton. Licence for the alienation in mortmain by Roger Cheyne of land and rent in Norton, county Salop, to a chaplain to celebrate divine service daily in the chaple of Holy Cross, Norton, for his soul and the souls of his ancestors, his successors and others.

Originally worked with a time frame that Roger II Cheyne, the son of Roger I Cheyne and Margery his wife was born c1328 based on the testimony of one Roger Cheyne, aged 48, gave at the inquisition of the “proof of age”, for Brian de Cornwaille on the 15 May 1377. [CIPM V15, no. 301]

Fortunately in late June, [2014] whilst searching the National Archives for the manor of Bukenhull, came across the following “plea of covenant”, dated 5 June 1328 and 17 June 1330. “Roger, son of Roger de Cheyne, and Isolt, his wife, querents, by Philip Megre, put in the place of Isolt by the lord king's writ, and Roger de Cheyne and Margery, his wife, deforciants. Roger de Cheyne and Margery have granted for themselves and the heirs of Roger that the manor Bukenhull' which Robert de Bukenhull' holds for life of the inheritance of Roger de Cheyne on the day the agreement was made, and which after the decease of Robert ought to revert to Roger de Cheyne and Margery and the heirs of Roger.” [No CP 25/1/194/11, number 9]

The line of descent as confirmed is Roger I Cheyne, living 1314-1330, married Marjory, living 1327- 1330, parents of Roger II Cheyne living 1321-1368, married Isabel, living 1330, parents of Majory, married Ralph Lingen, living 1379, and Margaret, married Laurence Hauberk. It is more than likely that Roger II was deceased prior to November 1379 otherwise his daughters and their husbands would not have been able to try to take legal action in an attempt to recover the manor of Bukenhull.

Have been unable to fully confirm if John Cheyne, living 1284, was the father of Roger I Cheyne, but his holding of a third part of the manor of Norton in 1284, and the alienation of some land and rent in Norton by Roger in 1328 indicates a strong possibility.

There is a genealogical problem with the parentage of Hugh Cheyne, died 1404, and his relationship to Roger II Cheyne, the father of Marjory who married Ralph Lingen. Hugh was defined as a son of Hugh Cheyne of Longville and possibly brother of Roger Cheyne by Woodgar in the biography of Hugh written for the “History of Parliament”. Under the heading of “Biography”, Woodgar wrote: “Although Cheyne became a prominent figure in the west midlands, the details of his family background are confused. It seems likely, however, that he was the grandson of Roger Cheyne, who sat for Shropshire in four Parliaments of the 1320’s, and brother of another Roger who represented the same county in 1365”. Woodgar further adds in the next paragraph: “Cheyne’s local standing owed much to his years of service with the Mortimer earls of March, with whom his family had long been connected. Indeed, in 1349 Cheyne’s father had given evidence when Roger, the second earl, had made proof of age.” Hugh Cheyne, age 55 years, was the witness at the inquisition of the “proof of age”. That Roger and Hugh Cheyne were brothers is defined by Anthony Emery, the author of “Greater Mediveal Houses of England and Wales 1300-1500:” Volume 2. Emery records on page 527: “Sir Roger Cheyne, Hugh's brother, who represented Shropshire in Parliament in 1365, was killed during a burglarly at his house in Longefeld in 1383 when William Chanlener stole silver vessels and clothes.” William Chanlener was granted a pardon for the death of Roger in 1394. [Patent Rolls 29 September]