Margaret (Cecil) Cave (abt. 1522 - 1611)

Born about 1522 in England

Ancestors

Wife of Roger Cave — married 24 Nov 1561 in London, England

Descendants

Died 6 Dec 1611 at about age 89 in England

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Biography

Margaret Cecil was the daughter of Richard Cecil, esq, of Burghley by his wife Jane Heckington. Richard and Jane had one son, Queen Elizabeth's famous William Cecil Baron Burghley, and they had three daughters: Agnes (or Anne or Anneys) who married Thomas White of Wallingwells, Woodhead and Tuxford; Elizabeth who married Robert Wingfield and Hugh Allington; and this Margaret. It is not known to me the order of the daughters, nor even any good birthyears for any of the three, but she was the last married, which may indicate she was the youngest. By the date of her children's birth's, this Margaret had to have been between 1522 and 1547, and she was probably born at Bourne in Lincolnshire.

Marriages and Issue

According to the Johnson reference, Margaret married three times, to Roger Cave, Sir William Skipworth and Erasmus Smith. The Marriage to Skipworth is however disputed by some researchers, who suggest Skipworth married her daughter Margaret Cecil.

Margaret married first Sir Roger CAVE of Stamford, on 24 November 1561 at Cecil House, the Strand, London.^[1] The marriage was entered in the register of St Clement Danes, London, the parish in which Cecil House was located.^[2]

Note that Jon Culverhouse, Manager, Burghley, writes that "Margaret was married twice, firstly to Roger Cave and secondly to Ambrose<sic> Smith of Bosworth." Dr. Elisabeth Leedham-Green, Deputy Keeper, Cambridge University Archives, writes: "As to connection [of Rev. Henry SMITH] with William Cecil: here I find myself in difficulty. I have used Barron's Northamptonshire families (1906) which is the source Lord David Cecil gives for the Cecil pedigree and which I therefore take to be probably correct. According to Barron, William's sister Margaret married first Roger Cave of Stamford, Esq., who died 1586, and by whom she had 6 children: Thomas, William, Cecil, John, Frances and Dorothy. She then married, as his second wife, Erasmus Smith of Bosworth, Leics., who had issue by his first wife, but none by Margaret."

The inscription on her parents’ funeral monument in St Martin’s, Stamford names her husbands as Roger Cave and Ambrose Smith.^[3]

According to Order of the Crown of Charlemagne line in volume II of Pedigrees, Margaret and Roger were parents of Margaret Cave, who married Sir William SKIPWITH, son of Henry SKIPWITH, Esq. and Jane (HALL) NEAL. No evidence has been seen that states that Margaret (CECIL) SMITH had a son named Henry.

Marriages :

1. Roger Cave (d Jul 25, 1586, son of Thomas Cave). 9 ? Children:
   1. Elizabeth Cave (d 1638) m Walter Bagot of Blithfield (1557-1623)
   2. Frances Cave m Sir Edmund Bussey (son of John Bussey and Elizabeth)
   3. Thomas Cave m Eleanor St John
   4. Margaret Cave m Sir William Skipwith (1559-1610) of Cates, Leicestershire
   5. William Cave m Margaret
   6. Cecil Cave m Anne Bennett
   7. John Cave
   8. Anne Cave m Edward Bussey (is she confused with her sister Frances?)
   9. Dorothy Cave m Mr Hartopp
2. Erasmus (Ambrose) Smith of Husbands Bosworth, Leicestershire. No children.

'The Peerage' Margaret and Roger had the following children (although other sources suggest at least nine):-

1. Elizabeth Cave d. c Nov 1638
2. Sir Thomas Cave
3. Sir William Cave
4. Margaret Cave
5. Frances Cave

Christening

22 Jun 1562

at Saint Anne Soho, Westminster, London, England

Bio of Daughter

MARGARET CAVE (d. 1588+)

Margaret Cave was the daughter of Roger Cave (d. July 26, 1586) and Margaret (or Mary) Cecil (d. March 19, 1552/3). She is included here mostly because she is so often confused with her mother and then, in some cases, said to be a daughter of William Cecil, Lord Burghley and his second wife, Mildred Cooke. Margaret Cave’s mother was Burghley’s sister, not his daughter. Margaret herself married Sir William Skipwith of Coates (c.1564-May 3, 1610), by whom she had a son, Henry Skipwith. Some genealogies give her a second husband named Erasmus Smith. Others give her mother a second husband named Ambrose Smith. Neither seems likely, since in both cases these women were outlived by their first (and apparently only) husbands.^[4]

Sources

1. ↑ Stephen Alford. Burghley. William Cecil at the Court of Elizabeth I, Yale University Press, 2011, p. 117
2. ↑ England Marriages, 1538–1973, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKNG-38C
3. ↑ Inscription on monument to Richard and Jane Cecil, St Martin's, Stamford, Lincolnshire, Wikimedia Commons
4. ↑ Tudor Women

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