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Osbert (De Lumley) Lumley

Osbert Lumley formerly De Lumley
Born [date unknown] in Lumley, County Durham, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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(disputed)[1] Osbert de Lumley[2]
m. ____. Issue:
  • (disputed) Liulf de Lumley (d.1080)[1] m. Eadglyth (Algitha). Issue: 2 (Uchtred and Morcar).

de LUMLEY to present LUMLEY FAMILY

Note: the Years of Births between the parents and their first born were estimated by and no less than 20yrs !

1st Generation:
Father Osbert LUMLEY b. (?) abt.1068(27yrs old) & Wife/Mother ¿? Born abt. 1070,(25yrs old) ? ..If their son was born in 1095.

Their Children:
Liuph LUMLEY b. abt.1095 (45yrs old if Ughtred is born in 1140) - 1115 (25yrs old)

He married: Algitha of NORTHUMBERLAND  (dau. ofUchtred "the Bold" of Northumberland)

Their Children:
Ughtred LUMLEY born abt. 1140 (20yrs old)

He married: Algitha ? Before 1160!

Their Children:
William LUMLEY (1st or Sr.) Born: ABT 1160, Lumley, Durham, England

He married: Judith HESILDEN

Their Children:
William (II or Jr.) LUMLEY Born: abt. 1180, Lumley, Durham, England

He married: ¿? (Unknown)

Their Children:
William LUMLEY(the 3rd or III) Born: abt. 1200, Lumley, England.

He married: Dau. D'AUDRE

Their Children:
Robert LUMLEY born Est. 1227 & Died: 13 Jul 1308

He married: Mary FITZMARMADUKE

Their Children:
Roger LUMLEY Born: ABT 1236, Lumley, Durham, England & Died: BEF 1273

He married: Sibilla MORWICK (b. ABT 1248 - d. 26 Jul 1298)

Their Children:
Roger Lumley (II or Jr.) b. 1275 & d. 1306
Robert LUMLEY Born: ABT 1272, W. Cheryton, Northumberland, England & Died: ABT 1338

Robert married: Lucia De THWENGE (b. ABT 1279) (dau. of Marmaduke De Thwenge and Isabel De Ros)

Their Children:
Marmaduke LUMLEY

LUMLEY/Gramstedt[3]
LUMLEY/FamilySearch[4]
LUMLEY/Freepages.genealogy[5]
LUMLEY[6]de_LUMLEY at[7]


References

  1. 1.0 1.1 Simeon of Durham and Richard de Hoveden do not name Liulf's father. Later writers, such as Owen (1790), start to speculate and associate Liulph with the surname "de Lumley" ... and give him parents. They are, in fact, unknown. But the genealogy of the Lumley family was falsified in order to glam it up (Coss, 2000).

    That said, Liulf who married Eadglyth did exist, and have two sons. They're just not Lumleys.

    ~ Researched by Bree Ogle | WikiTree.com © 2015.)
  2. Owen, 1790
  3. LUMLEY/Gramstedt [1]
  4. LUMLEY/familysearch[2]
  5. Also See:
    LUMLEY Freepages.genealogy[3] & [4]
  6. LUMLEY[5]
  7. FamilyHistory [6]
Coss, P.R. (2000). The Lady in Medieval England 1000-1500, (pp.40-41). Stackpole Books. Google Books.
Owen, W. (1790). The Peerage of England, Scotland, and Ireland: The peerage of England, (pp.211). Google Book.




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A short exerpt from the Gateshead, Durham Genealogy Archives in UK:

On the 14th of May, 1080, Gateshead was the scene of a tragic event of some historical importance. Walcher, the Norman bishop of Durham, was endeavouring to pacify an assembly of the subjects of the Palatinate, incensed at the tyranny of two of the bishop's officers who had just murdered Liulph, a Saxon lord, founder of the noble family of Lumley, when the cry was raised of " Short red, good red, slay ye the bishop," and the unhappy prelate fell pierced with many wounds.

This clearly states that Liulph was murdered in 1080.

Maureen Eves-Lavis

posted by Maureen Eves
edited by Maureen Eves
Liulf de Lumley is on record with Wikitree as having died in 1180, NOT 1080 as noted in the comment above. I see no reason to believe he was not the son of Osbert de Lumley, whose dates of birth and death are not given.
posted by James Davis

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