Floris van Voorne

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Biography

Floris was first mentioned in 1157 AD. He is called "Florentii terra de vorran." Which many history writers translate as Lord (Terra) of Voorne.

Floris van Voorne, was mentioned with his brother Dirk in 1174. He was also mentioned in a charter with Hugo van Voorne in 1168. So we can presume that Floris, Dirk are brothers of Hugo.

Florentius was married with a daughter of Altena. We find this in a charter if 1173 AD. They had one son:

1. Hugo van Voorne. We base this in a charter written before 1190 AD, which states: [.....] Hugo f(ilius). Florentii, Theodericus de Vorren [.....]^[1]

Research Note RE Children of Florentius In an article of the Nederlande Leeuw in 1928 named "De Heren van Voorne" it was proposed that the three brothers Hugo van Voorne (1160-abt.1216), Dirk van Voorne (abt.1170-1228) and Bartholomeus van Voorne-Van Naaldwijk (abt.1170-aft.1220) were children of Florentius van Voorne.^[2] The reasoning appears as follows:

• After Hugo van Voorne (1108 AD) the next person mentioned is Florentius van Voorne (1157 AD).
• He is called "Heer van Voorne" ("Terra").
• He had a son named Hugo.
• The next Heer van Voorne is a Hugo van Voorn (Listed 1198-1215).

However in more recent articles this is dismissed as incorrect. ^[3]The reason being:

• None of the three brothers Hugo (Listed 1198-1215), Dirk (Listed 1198-1226), Bartholomeus (Listed 1199-1214) named their children Florentius.
• The name Florentius disappeared after this generation.

Therefore it is more logical that the three brothers are sons of Dirk van Voorne (or Hugo). As the name Dirk van Voorne stayed in their descendends.

Charters

The following charters lists Florentius van Voorne:^[4]

• 1156 Sunt autem hi termini ejus: in orientali et aquilonari parte comitis terra, proxima est meridiem versus Florentii terra de vorran, in latere occidentali est aqua, quae dicitur hilchersh, ibi etiam et exitus ejus.^[5]
• 1168 "…Theodericus de Altena, Florentius de Vorne, Isbrandus de Harlhem, Gerardus de Harlhem…Hugo de Vorne…" witnessed the charter dated 27 Feb 1168 which records a treaty between Floris III Count of Holland and Philippe Count of Flanders
• 1174"…Florentius de Voern et frater eius Theodericus, Isbrandus de Harlem et frater eius Gerardus…" witnessed the charter dated 3 Oct 1174 which Floris III Count of Holland issued relating to the advocacy of Egmond
• 1190"…Florentii de Vorne…" witnessed the charter dated to before 1190 under Floris III Count of Holland donated property to the church of St Michael, Antwerp
• 1173A charter dated to [1173] records that “dominus Fastradus de Vutwicht” founded the church of Postelo, recording that “dominus Theodericus [...de Altena]...et sororem suam” renounced their ownership of certain property and that “post obitum matris domini Theodorici...Udelhilt, soror præfati Theodorici et vir eius Florentius de Voorne” agreed her inheritance

Sources

1. ↑ <1190 Graaf Floris III schenkt vrijdom van belastingen voor 40 gemet in Zuid Beveland aan de abdij ter Does. [.....] Hugo f. Florentii, Theodericus de Vorren [.....] Oorkondeboek van Holland en Zeeland Oorkonde No. 168, voor 1190 AD
2. ↑ Dr. Henri Obreen, De Heren van Voorne, De Nederlandse Leeuw 1928
3. ↑ J.C.Kort, Heren van Voorne, Burggraven van Zeeland Heren van Voorne, Archives Portal Europe, 1972.
4. ↑ John fitz Geoffrey, entry in the database Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families by Charles Cawley © Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2000-2017.
5. ↑ Oorkondeboek van Holland en Zeeland, 1157 AD Oorkonde No. 133 De Graaf van Holland verwisselt enige goederen met de abt van Epternach NOTE: This charter is also signed by Unarch van Naaldwijck.

See Also

• Dr. Ted Vandevis

http://www.genealogieonline.nl/Stamboom Kok, Jagt, Bottinga, Maarhuisen, Kuiper, door Martin Kok Vandevis-11 07:58, 30 July 2014 (EDT)