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Cesar Payne (1865 - 1911)

Cesar Payne
Born in Seminole Nation, Indian Territory, United Statesmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died at age 46 in Sasakwa, Seminole, Oklahoma, United Statesmap
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Profile last modified | Created 28 Jul 2022
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Cesar was Seminole.

Biography

Cesar may have been the husband of Dinah, daughter of Mack (unknown) and Maria Foster, all of the Dosar Barkus Band. Dinah later married Jim Bennett, and, still later, Eugene Walker. But the dates of Cesar and Dinah make him too young to have married her.

Cesar Payne was still living at the time of Dawes enrollment, and thus there is a card reflecting him as well. He is enrolled on Seminole Freedman card number 684. He resided in the town of Sasakwa. His parents were Sam and Rebecca Payne, both of the Dosar Barkus Band. Sam and Rebecca were Fanny's paternal grandparents. This provides additional information for anyone researching the Payne family.[1]

The age for Cesar Payne on Seminole Freedmen card 684 (roll 2150) was 33. In general, this was the age of the person in 1902. This calculates to a birth date of 1869. The card itself was made in 1897.[2]I do not find Samuel or Rebecca Payne (presumably his parents) listed on this site. I wonder if this is the same Cesar Payne.

Caesar Payne was living at Sasakwa, in the Seminole Nation, when two of his horses were stolen by the Christian Brothers gang in 1895.[3]

2 July 1901: Caesar Payne applied to take an allotment of land for himself and his son Alfred Payne; he testified that he was a member of the Dosar Barkus band of Seminoles; that his wife was a Creek; that she was not the mother of Alfred. Alfred's mother was a Seminole of the Caesar Bruner band. Alfred was presently living with his father.[4]

3 July 1901: Nancy Bruner applied to take allotments of land for herself and her son Clarence Bruner. Nancy was Seminole Roll #2303 and Clarence was Seminole Roll #2306. Nancy testified that she was of the Dosar Barkus Band and lived at Sasakwa. She said she had been married, but was not then living with her husband. [5]

Nancy Bruner (Card 2303) was age 32 about 1902. Seminole Freedmen Card no. 721 has her with children Ollie (female, card 2304) age 7; Elwood, age 3 (card 2305), and Clarence, age 7 months (card 2306).[6]The father of Ollie and Elwood Bruner was Nick Tecumseh, who applied on their behalf for a land allotment on 16 January 1902.[7]Nancy Bruner applied for a homestead allotment on behalf of her children Ollie and Elwood Bruner, 26 October 1904.[8]

14 Feb 1902: Caesar Payne applied to take an allotment of land for his son Clarence Bruner. Clarence was Seminole Roll #2306. Cesar Payne said he was a member of the Dosar Barkus band of Seminoles, that his wife was not a citizen of the Seminole nation, but that the mother of Clarence was a Seminole. She was a Dosar Barkus, and had already made application for him to file upon some land. Clarence Bruner at that time did not live with his father.[9]

Caesar Payne, a Seminole Freedman light horseman, was hired to kill his relative Bob Dosar for a reported fee of $1,000. The Bob Dosar gang, whose operations were based at Little River, was considered armed and extremely dangerous. Dosar had murdered his brother, among other crimes. Payne tricked and killed Bob Dosar, but in doing so he gained many enemies in the Little River community. Soon afterward, Joe Barkus, another of Dosar's relatives, murdered Payne.[10]

Research Note

Card 651 of the Seminole Nation Freedmen Roll gives Fanny Turner's age as 23, enrolled in the Caesar Bruner Band in 1897. Her son Jesse Brown was age 8. Her daughter Nora Bruner was age 3. Her daughter Eva Turner was age 2. Her daughter Crisella Turner was age 1. On the reverse of the card Fanny's father is listed as Doser or Robert Pain of the Dosar Barkus Band, no. 359 and her mother as Dolly Letty, enrolled 1897, of the Cesar Bruner Band, no. 546 1/2. The father of the person on line #2 (Jesse Brown) was Witty Cudger of the Cesar Bruner band, no. 509, owned by Robert Grayson; mother Silla (deceased), owned by John Jumper. The father of the persons on lines 3 and 4 (Nora and Eva) was Jack Warrior, no. 520.

Caesar Payne was aged 33 in 1897 (Card 684). His wife and child were Creek citizens. This does not look like the same person as the father of Fanny Turner, who was of the Seminole Nation.

Sources

  1. http://african-nativeamerican.blogspot.com/2017/05/fanny-turner-and-family-seminole.html
  2. https://www.okhistory.org/research/dawesresults.php?cardnum=684&tribe=Seminole&type=Freedmen
  3. https://vdoc.pub/documents/last-of-the-old-time-outlaws-the-george-west-musgrave-story-2t2ul5cq18q0
  4. "Oklahoma Applications for Allotment, Five Civilized Tribes, 1899-1907," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H9-ZW6F : 9 March 2018), Caesar Payne, 1899-1907; citing Oklahoma, United States, tribe or clan Seminole Freedmen Roll, file Pacific County Probate Estate Files., National Archives and Records Administration, Southwest Region, Fort Worth, Texas.
  5. "Oklahoma Applications for Allotment, Five Civilized Tribes, 1899-1907," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H9-ZCWJ : 9 March 2018), Clarence Bruner, 1899-1907; citing Oklahoma, United States, tribe or clan Seminole Freedmen Roll, file Pacific County Probate Estate Files., National Archives and Records Administration, Southwest Region, Fort Worth, Texas.
  6. https://www.okhistory.org/research/dawesresults.php?cardnum=721&tribe=Seminole&type=Freedmen
  7. "Oklahoma Applications for Allotment, Five Civilized Tribes, 1899-1907," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H9-ZKVT : 9 March 2018), Elwood Bruner, 1899-1907; citing Oklahoma, United States, tribe or clan Seminole Freedmen Roll, file Pacific County Probate Estate Files., National Archives and Records Administration, Southwest Region, Fort Worth, Texas.
  8. "Oklahoma Applications for Allotment, Five Civilized Tribes, 1899-1907," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H9-ZVV1 : 9 March 2018), Ellwood Bruner, 1899-1907; citing Oklahoma, United States, tribe or clan Seminole Freedmen Roll, file Pacific County Probate Estate Files., National Archives and Records Administration, Southwest Region, Fort Worth, Texas.
  9. "Oklahoma Applications for Allotment, Five Civilized Tribes, 1899-1907," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H9-ZKT6 : 9 March 2018), Caesar Payne, 1899-1907; citing Oklahoma, United States, tribe or clan Seminole Freedmen Roll, file Pacific County Probate Estate Files., National Archives and Records Administration, Southwest Region, Fort Worth, Texas.
  10. "The Seminole Freedmen: A History," by Kevin Mulroy, p. 278, online at Google Books




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