Helen Hay was born about 1620 in Forfar, Angus, Scotland, the daughter of Alexander Hay, Lord Fosterseat, [1] She was the second wife of Archibald Johnston (1610–1663), who was executed by Charles II on 26 July 1663 for having served under Cromwell. She was the mother of James Johnston, envoy extraordinary to Prussia 1690–92, Secretary of State, Scotland, 1692–96 and Lord Clerk Register 1704–05.
Rachel Johnston c. 1641 m. Robert Baillie 1/20/1661[5]
Sources
↑Diary of Sir Archibald Johnston, Lord WaristonAuthor: Scottish History Society; Constable, T. and A., Edinburgh; Warriston, Archibald Johnston, Lord, 1611-1663; Mar, John Erskine, earl of, 1675-1732; Grant, Anne MacVicar, 1755-1838. Publisher: Edinburgh, Printed at the University Press by T. and A. Constable for the Scottish History Society 1896. Pages 8-
↑Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (accessed 21 May 2016), Helen Hay in entry for Archebald Johnstoun, ; citing Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, reference 2:183KQPC; FHL microfilm 1,066,662.
↑Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (accessed 21 May 2016), Helen Hay in entry for Eupham Johnstone, ; citing Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, reference 2:17M1HJH; FHL microfilm 1,066,663.
↑ [https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTPH-BFC
Scotland Births and Baptisms], 1564-1950 database, FamilySearch (accessed 21 May 2016), Helene Hay in entry for Helene Johnstoun, ; citing Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, reference 2:183N2XR; FHL microfilm 1,066,662.
↑Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910, database, FamilySearch (accessed 21 May 2016), Helen Hay in entry for Robert Baillie and Rachel Johnstone, 20 Jan 1661; citing , Lanark, Lanark, Scotland, reference 2:G49BVJ; FHL microfilm 1,066,594.
Oxford IndexJohnston, James (1655-1737), politician and government official, by John R. Young in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Published in print September 2004, Published online September 2004, e-ISBN: 9780198614128
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We now have accurate dates and actual references with page numbers thanks to Eric. There are more kids but I need to get back to what I was doing. If none of the PMs get time to add the other children and references, I will be able to get back to it. The kids are here.
Yes by name, starts page 8 and continues for quite some pages, the birth record all name her also as Helen Hay wife of Sir Archibald Johnston and mother of the children
Thank you, Eric. She is mentioned in all the references by name. I should have been clear that we are looking for a reference for a birth and /or marriage date. Thanks again for the help.
The diary mentions her very often, it even mentions her parents Lord Fosterseat in particular. Alexander Hay and Catherine Skene are the parents full names.
Eric usually checks the sources because I do all my work from an iPhone which makes it hard to read the books.
I am going to post (for now) what looks like it will help as a source and will either remove or use as an inline source once I can read it better. Feel free to comment etc.
Well that's never good! No I am looking for a source and there are several questions I have on Helen but I agree, she probably didn't marry before she was born! Thanks, Sue!! Let me see if I can fix that
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We now have accurate dates and actual references with page numbers thanks to Eric. There are more kids but I need to get back to what I was doing. If none of the PMs get time to add the other children and references, I will be able to get back to it. The kids are here.
Thanks again!
Please help with dates. Thanks!
Also, does his diary mention her? None of the refs for her father, husband or famous son do!
I am going to post (for now) what looks like it will help as a source and will either remove or use as an inline source once I can read it better. Feel free to comment etc.