"According to the Complete Peerage his [Richard of the Mote, died 1441] wife was Joan Bedlisgate daughter of John Bedlisgate and Mary dau. and coh. of William Beauchamp of Somerset. The DNB (1938) shows Richard marrying Joan Beauchamp of Somerset. However an article in The Coat of Arms NS vol. 9, no.159, 1992 states that both of these are in error and the descent is":[1]
- Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon Somerset was the father of:
- Joan Beauchamp who was married to Thomas Bittellesgate of Knighteston, Devon, and they were the parents of:
- Jane/Joan Bittellesgate who was married to Richard of the Mote, died 1441, son of John Wydevile, born circa 1341, died circa 1400, and his second wife, Isabel; Jane/Joan and Richard were the parents of:
- Sir Richard Wydevile, who married Jacquetta Duchess of Bedford;
- Elizabeth Wydevile;
- Joan Wydevile, who was married to Sir William Haute;
This profile was attached as a daughter to William Beauchamp-62 and Margaret de Ferrers-22, who weren't a couple and neither of them was the parent of this or any other Mary. Therefore, this profile was detached from them on November 16, 2015 (by Liz). I also did some post-merge cleanup. The proposal to merge her away as stated below sounds like a good plan. Noland-165 14:20, 16 November 2015 (EST)
Taking Mary to be the ancestor (aka Joan) of Queen Elizabeth Woodville, through her daughter Joan, I propose to detach her parents and merge her with her shadow Beauchamp-150. Probably merge the husbands as well.
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https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/beauchamp-sir-thomas-1444
" on their brass in All Saints church, Maidstone, Kent, her family coat of arms ... in 1631, Sir Edward Dering made a drawing of the brass. This shows Joan’s arms to have been quarterly 1 and 3 or on a bend sable 3 bedles argent, 2 and 4 vair. The first represents Bittellesgate and the second Beauchamp of Lillesdon, Somerset. The heraldry allowed Hansen and Thompson to convincingly demonstrate that Joan’s father was Thomas Bittelsgate of Devon and her mother was Joan Beauchamp. Joan Beauchamp was the sister of Sir Thomas Beauchamp of White Lackington, a cadet branch of the Beauchamps of Hache. They further suggest that it was Sir Thomas Beauchamp, a close supporter of Henry IV, who arranged the marriage of his niece, Joan, to Richard Wydevile. The connection to Bittellesgate is confirmed in a petition by Antony Wydevile in c. 1475 over land in Devon when he claimed to be ‘Cosyn & heire to Thomas Bittellesgate, Esquier, Lord of Knyghsteton…’” Brought Up Of Nought, Lynda J. Pidgeon · 2019
George Edward Cokayne · 1998 · page 549 120–4 , reproducing their memorial brass from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering ( circa 1630 ) and an extract from a petition of 1475 by Anthony , Earl Rivers , naming Joan's father as Thomas Bittlesgate ( see also Coat of Arms ...
edited by Monica (Edmunds) Kanellis