John was born about 1885. He was 24 yrs old when daug Louise born in 1909. [1]
Sources
↑ "New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WCG-24P : 11 February 2018), Louise Miriam Lober, 14 Feb 1909; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference cn 10057 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,992,517.
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