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Family of Elizabeth Rachel le Gresley

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Date: 1850 [unknown]
Location: Jerseymap
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Introduction

This profile pertains to the following records

Passenger list

  • Elizabeth Syvret (34, Jersey, dairy woman)
  • Elizabeth De la Cour (18, Servant)
  • Philip De la Cour (11)
  • Hannah De la Cour (10)
  • Francis De la Cour (9)
  • John De la Cour (8)
  • Clara Syvret (5)
  • John Syvret (2)
  • Amanda Syvret (9mo)

The family on the passenger list is certainly the same one as on the census , the similarities are too great.

Children of Philip/John de la Cour and Elizabeth Rachel Le Gresley

A Jerripedia search for children born to de la Cour / Le Gresley in the time frame has four results:

PlaceBirthBaptismChild NameFamily NameRelationshipFatherMother
St. Peter23 Dec 185527 Jan 1856Elizabethde La CourDaughterJohnElizabeth Rachel Le Gresley
St. Helier24 Oct 185821 Nov 1858Melvina Susannede La CourDaughterJohnElizabeth Rachel Le Gresley
St. Helier19 Apr 186102 Jun 1861Philip JohnDe La CourSonPhilipElizabeth Le Gresley
St. Peter23 Nov 186221 Dec 1862Anna Rachelde La CourDaughterPhilippeElizabeth Le Gresley

This appears to be the record for child John

PlaceBirthBaptismChild NameFamily NameRelationshipFatherMother
St. Peter14 May 186414 Aug 1864FrancisLe GresleySonunknownElizabeth Le Gresley
  • Manual scan for Francis Le Gresley, born May 14 1864, mother Elizabeth Le Gresley, father not recorded

I think we can conclude from this:

  • "Philippe" and "John" on the birth table above and the marriage record below are the same person.
  • Elizabeth had separated from John before 1864, hence naming Francis with her name instead of his.
  • She later married a Syvret, who was the father of Clara.
  • "Hannah" on the 1861 census is Melvina, and she died or otherwise emigrated before 1871.
  • "Hannah" on the passenger log is Anna Rachel.

Problems:

  • We don't know who the father of Francis is.
  • No birth record found for John or Clara -- although the Jerripedia indexing is incomplete.

The father

Matching birth record from JerripediaBMD to the 1861 census age and birthplace:

PlaceBirthBaptismChild NameFamily NameRelationshipFatherMother
St. Brelade19 Jul 183030 Jul 1830Philippede La CourSonNicolasAnne Elizabeth Salmon

Likely parents' marriage

Ancestry.com John de la Cour (23), carpenter / Elizabeth Rachel Le Gresley (19), St. Helier, 2 Mar 1851.

I feel this is likely as the date is roughly right, and the full name Elizabeth Rachel that appears on some of the birth records.

Second marriage

There are three children named Syvret appearing on the 1874 passenger log. However no birth records have been found for them. Nor has any compatible marriage record been found for Syvret / Le Gresley or Syvret / de la Cour.

Arecord in the Jersey Heritage archive cites "Jean Syvret, wife of Elizabeth Rachel Le Gresley".

See Jean's profile for speculation about his identity. But it seems like a strong possibility that they did not in fact marry -- and perhaps Jean Syvret is also the father of the last two "de la Cour" children.


Sources

  1. "England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFTP-SRH : 16 November 2020), Francis De La Cour in entry for Elizabeth Syvret, 1871.
  2. "England and Wales Census, 1861," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M75Q-NM4 : 18 August 2020), Elizabeth De La Cour in household of Philip De La Cour, Saint Helier, Jersey; from "1861 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
  3. "New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSB9-625 : 8 July 2019), Clara Syvret, 6 May 1874; citing ship , Archives New Zealand, Wellington; FHL microfilm 004412061.
  4. "New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSB2-332 : 8 July 2019), Francis De La Cour, 5 May 1874; citing ship , Archives New Zealand, Wellington; FHL microfilm 004411948.




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