Comments on Margaret (Beach) Robinson

Question

On 20 Oct 2021 S (Hill) Willson wrote on Beach-1797:

Are there any reliable sources that show her last name as Beach?

Edited to add additional tags.

Comments

I did a cursory search and could not find anything that sources Beach/Beech, a parent, or a birth/baptism date/place for Margaret. The two best sources seem to be Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines... and The pioneers of Massachusetts, a Descriptive List... simply have "Margaret" with no maiden surname.

Answer 1

New England Marriages prior to 1700 (2015) reports William Robinson's wife as Margaret or "[Margaret BEECH]?", and with a marriage date, England, "14 Oct 1637?" (By subscription, AmericanAncestors.)

I will review the works consulted by New England Marriages in order to identify which published account provides the possible marriage record. --Gene

Note: I had already added disputed associations and research notes sections to Margaret's profile, and to those of her uncertain parents, before pulling the New England Marriages record.  Will update here and the profiles after reviewing the works consulted. 

Edited to add: Perhaps there is a marriage record at St. Dunstan's, Canterbury or otherwise at Canterbury. I  did not find a reference to "Beech" in those sources identified from the list of New England Marriages "works consulted."(*) 

Links to the works consulted are "Frame-Dana 152, 157; TAG 21:2; Reg. 68:341 (?); Williams (,16) 37 (?); Dorchester Hist. 133; Lincoln 23; Parker (,9) 456; Shaw-Williams 78; Robinson (#2) Chart; Robinson (#3) 71 [?]; Winchester (1912) 41; Paine (#5) 103; Harris (#12) 11."

(*)There were several works consulted noted that either are not listed as "Torrey Sources" or reference was not found to the surname Robinson on the page reported. These were, "Robinson (#3) 71; Reg. 68:341; and Williams (,16) 37." 

Notice of a Robinson-Beech marriage appears in English Caterbury records; also there is a somehow related record. With work, these records might provide further proof of identity for both Margaret and William.

In short, this possible Robinson-Beech marriage seems a research note until the sources are located by which Margaret ______ is shown to be Margaret Beech. 

Without the supporting documents and analysis, this wife should be updated to Margaret _____ (Margaret Unknown) and severed from the linked, albeit uncertain, Beach parents.  --Gene

Answer 2

From Boyd's Index:  https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FM%2F710054903%2F2 First name(s)	William
Country	England
Last name	Robinson
Source	Boyd's 1st miscellaneous marriage index, 1415-1808
Marriage year	1637
Record set	England, Boyd's Marriage Indexes, 1538-1850
Spouse's first name(s)	Margaret
Category	Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's last name	Beach
Subcategory	Parish Marriages
Place	Canterbury Diocese Marriage Licences
Collections from	England, Great Britain
County	Kent

Comments

It seems he may have spelled his forename "Steaphen"

He may have been buried 13 December 1639.  https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5915bf58f493fd1046da0796/steaphen-streeter-burial-kent-goudhurst-1639-12-13?locale=en

Note that there are others of this family present at the time and location, assumptions can not be made.

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Odd, huh. It is given as "Steven" in a chart that is part of the book. Text is available at several online sites, but the chart seems to only be viewable on the FamilySearch Books digitized copy, see FamilySearch Books - A genealogical history of the descendants of Stephen and Ursula Streeter...  

Chart appears as filmed page 22 of 363. 

I did not find a Streeter Beech marriage on the chart, but at page xxviii (Hathi Trust), we find, 

• "John Streeter of Fordwich, yeo., aet 34, to Ann Beach of Hackington, widow, aet. about 45, 15 Dec., 1624," citing "Cant. Mar. Lic."  
• "Wm. Robinson of St. Dunstan's, Canterbury, aet. 21, to Margaret Beech, alias Streeter (daughter of the above.) At Patrix bourne. 14 Oct., 1637," citing "Cant. Mar. Lic." 

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Secondary source

There were plenty of Ann Beeches about

I found the 1624 marriage, but FMP is down at the moment and I can't get details from that source

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Found 1624 marriage. The names are as given, which makes me conclude this is morelikely a brother/sister union - not the mother and stepfather of Margaret.

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Well, we have made a lot of progress. We may still be in the research notes category, but ...

1. We have date, location and some identifying information associated with a most promising 1637 marriage license/record for a William Robinson and a Margaret Beech. 
2. We can associate this Margaret with some sort of relation, about whom we have some identifying information. 

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Thank you very much, Lois,

Knowing there is an association is helpful.  

I will edit my just earlier comment so that it does not lead to confusion.

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Glad to help

Determining whether this couple can be identified with the immigrants is rather not my dept.

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Altho - I see that William's gravestone is shown. IFF it has a birthdate of about 1615, I would consider this strong evidence that he is the same William Robinson married at age 21 in 1637.

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Here's the 1624 marriage: 

Streeter (Streater), John of Fordwich, yeom., ba., about 34, and Ann Beech of Hackington, w., about 43, relict of [blank] Beech, late s. p., yeom., dec. At Hackington. John Squire of Cant., Merchant Taylor, and John Elisander of Cant., woolcomber, bonds. Dec. 15, 1624.

https://archive.org/details/canterburymarria02cant/page/n491/mode/2up

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Nice work, Lois. Thank you for pointing to that correlating information.