Welsh naming conventions

Question

Hello Wales Project!

I wanted to check on the proposed naming conventions, and get feedback from the Wales project before digging too far into the Welsh Quakers aboard Lyon.

discussion here:

Proposal for Welsh Naming Conventions

Is this the official word?

Also curious about the "house name category" - can someone give me an example of that type of category?

• the patronymic WOULD be used as the LNAB, not a house name, which would be added as a category

Answer 1

Here are some examples. 

What not to do http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dinefwr-2  In this case, the WikiTree ID name is Dinefwr-2.  This is the "house name"  The last name at birth should be ap Owain.

What to do http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ap_Gruffydd-42  has the category, House of Dinefwr (which I just added), and the name is ap Gruffydd.

At least, this is the way I understand it, and I think it is a "done deal," but would like confirmation on that.

 

Comments

The EuroAristo dividing line is at 1500 - nobody said anything about extending this to 1700.

It's a tricky period because hereditary names were coming into use and English spelling conventions were in common use.  So the Quaker Meeting books tend to say Owen, Hugh, Rees rather than Owain, Huw, Rhys.

Then it looks uncomfortable to write Jane ferch John with the Welsh spelling of ferch between two names spelt the English way.

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The Proect has just launched.  See http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Cymru_Welsh_Royals_and_Aristocrats_742-1535#Goals  As envisioned, it ends in 1535, when the Laws in Wales Act was passed. Profiles for later people should be included in the UK/Wates project of the EuroAristo/British Isles 1500 to Present project.

Cynthia, you are correct. House names should be used as categories and in the Bios, not in the LNAB.  And "ap Gruffydd-42 looks great and has been added to the proect.