Find the parents & Regiment of Daragon-4

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I need assistance finding the parents of https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Daragon-4 through a marriage or birth certificate, perhaps.

I am also trying to find him in a list of the regiments for:

Soldier (Louis XIV’s Troupes de la Marine), Troupes de la Marine de Louis XIV. Is there a source for the list of soldiers during this time?

Thanks all so much~
WikiTree profile: François Daragon dit Lafrance
in Genealogy Help by Jane Schaefer G2G6 (6.7k points)
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hi Jane,

The father and grandfather need to be detached, the supposed grandfather doesn't even bear the same name, and the supposed father, named ''Alpha Paul'' is a real puzzle how anyone can have come up with that one.  Paul is a given name, Alpha isn't.  

His marriage record is lost, and I don't see any trace of a marriage contract for him either, so there is absolutely nothing to tell us who his parents were or where he was born.  His age at death is an estimate from the clergy.  The data you have above from some tree is totally unsourced.  

Realize that the dit name Lafrance is fairly common, just doing a quick search in Drouin collection shows me that there are well over 40 names associated with it.

As to his having come with a military unit, there's no evidence found for that either.  It wouldn't have been a regiment, most of the troops that came here during that time period are just Marine company detachments of troops.  Roughly 30 to 40 men per company.  And resources are scant to identify the soldiers in them, we mostly have data on the officers.

by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (679k points)
selected by Jane Schaefer

Well, Alpha is a given name. Just not in that time and place (one famous bearer is the former president of Guinea, Alpha Condé). Which suggests that someone used the time travel machine that we have encountered on several other similar occasions.

And indeed, Paul G. Dragon was born on 28 Jan 1897 in Austria, travelled to Pennsylvania where he married Mary Butchko (Mary Butchko does not have a WT profile, but she appears in many online trees and is mentioned in one comment of the present discussion), then to 17th century France where he fathered François Daragon, then back to 20th century Ohio where he died on 9 Jul 1954. What, you don't believe this explanation?

laughlaughlaughlaugh one of these days we're going to get our hands on that time travel machine and be able to go look at records in their time!  laugh

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Hi, I do not understand the citation for the source about his marriage; do you know what ti's about/where I could read the actual document please?
by Léa Haupaix G2G6 Mach 9 (98.5k points)

That's what I am searching for...the actual birth and marriage documents that might list the parents of Francois Darranger born 1664. My best guess is from My Heritage but i can't find the original documents

François DARAGON (or d'aragon?)
 
Birth Aug 25 1664
  Orléans, Loire-Atlantique, Pays De La Loire, France
image
Occupation Soldier (Louis XIV?s Troupes de la Marine)
Death Aug 24 1734
  Montréal (Notre-Dame) (Ile-De-Montréal) Québec
Burial
  Montréal, Ile De Montréal, Québec, Canada
Father Alpha Paul DARRAGON LAFRANCE
Mother Mary BUTCHKO
Wife Marie-Madeleine GUILLEMET
So I realised there is actually some sort of marriage image source but it doesn't list François' parents.

I just went through all 30 parishes of Orleans and couldn't find him in the baptism records at that date. (BTW, Orléans is not in Loire-Atlantique)

Leah,

Thank you for searching 30 parishes of Orleans. Unfortunately, the source was Geneanet without any documentation. 

Other trees (which I don't trust a tree w/o documentation) suggest Francois Daragon's GF is a Dubois (my direct maternal line), but, again, not substantiated.

I did find a Philippe Daragon as a possible father of Francois on Filae: Baptized: The 29 july 1638 at Saint-Aubin-Montenoy--Saint-Aubin (Saint-Aubin-Montenoy, Somme); but many Filae listings list an index as the source.  

I think I hit a dead-end for now. Thank you, again.

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