Who are the parents of Elizabeth (Alarie) Lynch? (1880)

Question

I am trying to trace the ancestors of my grandma & great grandma. Specifically, I am looking to find out about the parents of Elizabeth (Alarie) Lynch. According to marriage records available at  this link: http://www.mesarfhc.org/books/Manitoba%20Marriages/971.27%20K2L%20v.1.pdf , her parents were Pierre Alarie and Genevieve (Zastre) Allary, however the age of the mother is suspect (or she was in great fertile health late into her life).  Based on information found at the following link: https://resistancemothers.wordpress.com/about/allary-allerie-alary-alarie-alaire-halary-honore-henry/ ,  these family members could have been members of a Canadian Indigenous community. This document also refers to a sibling of Henri (Napoleon) Allary as "Mrs. Fred Lynch".   Is it possible that Pierre & Genevieve were caregivers/adoptive parents and not her true parents (given the age of Genevieve and lack of specific documentation about Elizabeth).

Answer 1

Your marriage record shows that husband's name is John-Alfred Lynch married in St. Eustache on 9 Nov 1904. The bride's age isn't provided there, she might even have been in her 40's; with what you have presented, I'm not sure that her parent's age is a real concern. I did find this on J(ohn?) Alfred Lynch:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWK7-492

Here's the same census record for "Pierre Alary":
 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWK7-WBQ

Notice that they are in the same location?

Comments

Thanks, this is an interesting piece of information. :)

Answer 2

Census of Canada 1901
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=66211&highlight=33&desc=1901+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Pierre+Allary

(Line 33) Pierre age 76 & Genevieve 65 
Child: Lucie 19
(Line 39) Josué & wife
(Line 43) Elzéar & wife
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/jpg/z000019465.jpg

Census of Canada 1891
(Line 18) Pierre 64 & Genevieve 53
Children: Elzéar 19, Josué 16, Thérèse 13, Lucile 10
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148094-00690

Answer 3

Lucie Vitaline Allary
Baptized 1880-12-26, Birth 1880-12-25
St Eustache, MB
Daughter of Pierre Allary & Geneviève Zalte
Godfather and godmother:
Parrain: Jean Baptiste Laviolette
Marraine: Nancy Paul

"Manitoba Church Records, 1800-1959," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G994-WCVN?cc=1992433&wc=M6PR-MNG%3A325478201%2C325478202%2C325478203 : 22 May 2014), St Eustache > Catholic St Eustache > Baptisms, marriages, burials 1874-1882 vol 1 > image 77 of 224; parishes, Manitoba.

Mabye Lucie and Elizabeth are the same person

Comments

This is possible. This census record shows Lucie Allary (~age 19 in 1901 census, birth-date estimated 1882), daughter of Genevieve: https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?facetType=ON&query=%2Bgivenname%3Alucie~%20%2Bsurname%3Aallary~&count=20&residence_place1=3%2CManitoba

She was married in 1904 to John-Alfred Lynch (link in posted question), with parents listed as Genevieve and Pierre Alarie. In 1906 Canada Census has Genevieve and Pierre Allarie in the same household with a 'teacher' called Jean-Baptiste Cate. Then in the 1911 census, Lizzie Lynch is ~age 29 (estimated birth-date dec 1882):

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?facetType=ON&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aliz~%20%2Bsurname%3Alynch~&count=20&residenc

It's possible Lucie and Elizabeth are the same person, where Canada census reported the estimated birth-date 2 years off her actual birthday. I suppose you could also say that Lucie could easily sound like Lizzy when transitioning between various languages with an accent.

Answer 4

Census of Canada 1881
Pierre 50 & Tanyave 40 (= Geneviève)

10 Children: 
Louis 21, 
Marie L 19, 
Napoléon 14, 
Casaint 12, (= Hyacinthe)
Harriet 10, (= Henriette)
P... 9, 
Gillilmain 7, 
Josué 6, 
Terraise (= Thérèse) 3,  
Atalyes (born Dec 1880)

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e329/e008210593.jpg

Answer 5

Census of Manitoba 1870 
(Line 302) Pierre 30 (?)  
Geneviève 25, Father Gonzague Zaské *

5 Children:  
Louis 14,  
Ursule 8,  
Napoléon 6,  
Hyacinthe 5, 
Henriette 2

Métis

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1870/jpg/e010985571.jpg

* (Line 296) Gonzague Zaské, born in Quebec, age 69, Father André Zaské
Wife Angélique 50, Father Baptiste Parisien
Children: Isidore 17, Marie 19, Guillelmine 14, André 22

Comments

Marriage

Gonzague Zacé (André & Marie Sans-Souci) &
Angélique Parisien (Jean Baptiste & Louise Fanien?)
1833-05-28 St-Boniface MB

Children

Gonzague & Marie Parisien 1859-11-21 St-Norbert MB
Alexis & Angélique Ross 1865-01-10 St-François-Xavier, Selkirk, MB
André & Mathilde Ross 1870-02-28 St-François-Xavier, Selkirk, MB
Isidore & Domithilde Bousquet 1877-06-05 St-Boniface MB

Julie & André Parisien 1858-02-09 St-Norbert MB
Louise & Paul Paul 1863-04-21 St-François-Xavier, Selkirk, MB
Élise & Elzéar Thibert 1870-02-28 St-F-X
Marie & James Slatter 1871-11-28 St-F-X
Guillemine & Charles Laviolette 1872-09-24 St-F-X

Answer 6

My grandma also referred to her grandma as "Grandma Lizzie" , so I looked up "Liz" and her married name Lynch and found some information.  These two records appear to be the same family (but spelled differently).  I recognize some of the names like Violet & Sarah, from my Grandma's stories (interesting story - apparently one of these ladies saw her sister's ghost walking outside their home before she passed):

Lizzie Lynch (daughter  Lillian Lynch), ~age 29 in 1911 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?facetType=ON&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aliz~%20%2Bsurname%3Alynch~&count=20&residence_place1=3%2CManitoba

Lizzie Linch (daughter Lillian Lynch), ~age 33 in 1916 census.  In this one it says Pierre Allarie is her grandfather. No mention of her mother in either census.  Fred Linch is husband (John-Alfred) I presume. 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?facetType=ON&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aliz~%20%2Bsurname%3Alynch~&count=20&residence_place1=3%2CManitoba

Comments

Census of Canada 1911
Frederic Lynch 29 (john Alfred ?)
Lizzie Lynch 29 (Elizabeth ?)

and children : 
Sarah 6 
John 4 
Lilian 3 
Violet 1

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001948145.jpg

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Census of Manitoba, SK & Alberta 1916
Fred Linch 34 (john Alfred ?)
Lizzie  33 (Elizabeth ?)

and children : 
Sarah 11 
Alfred 10 
Lily 9 
Violet 6 
Walter 3 
Thomas 1 

and Allarie Pierre 92 - Grandfather
    Catherine Allarie 14 - Niece

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21928/jpg/31228_4363957-01111.jpg

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Marriages 

John-Alfred Lynch (Thomas & Caroline Arcand) &
Élizabeth Alarie (Pierre & Geneviève Zastre)
1904-11-09  St-Eustache MB

Émile Lacroix (Elzéar & Célanire Julien) &
Sarah Lynch (Alfred Lynch & Élizabeth Alarie)
1929-08-17  St-Eustache MB

Eugène Girard (Adélard & Maximée Bilodeau) &
Lily Lynch (Alfred Lynch & Élizabeth Alarie)
1935-06-26  St-Eustache MB

Adélard Girard (Guillaume & Philomène Turgeon) &
Maximilienne Bilodeau (Pierre & Euphronie Roy)
1897-07-03  Springfield MA USA

http://www.bms2000.org/

Answer 7

I found another  compelling document that serves as evidence that Pierre Allary was indeed, Elizabeth Lynch's father. 

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/39342883/

Pierre Allary's obituary the Manitoba Tribune paper (May 15, 1924) mentions that he was survived by his children, one of which is "Mrs. Alfred Lynch":

"At the age of 27 years he married Genevieve Zastre, who predeceased him a few years ago. Fourteen children were born to them, nine of whom are still living. ' They are: Hyaclnthe, Napoleon, Eljear, Joseph, Mrs. Alfred Lynch, Mrs. J, Brown, of St. Eustache: Louis; Mrs. Fraser, of Olga, N.D.; Mrs. Desjarlals, of Togo, Honk. Seventy grand - children, 41) great - grand - children, and four great - great - grand - children survive "le vleux UC Pierre."

 In combination with all the earlier answers, I think it's safe to say that Pierre and Genevieve Allary are her parents (until proven otherwise).

Thank you all for the help!