I know this discussion is 5 years old, but the time as come to finally come to terms with problematic speculative connections within the Anne Couvent lineage.
I have been adding over the last 2 months lines which extend the Couvent lines back based upon the extensive work of Charles Cawley of Medieval Lands, Gagné and Kokanosky, John DuLong, and others.
I have NOT extended lines which haven't been covered under their research without proper sourcing, like de Longueval. I don't feel confident in it at all when Gagné and Kokanosky couldn't even extend it and only provided bits and pieces without bonafide connections.
Despite the cloud that hovers over the ancestry of François de Joyeuse and his wife Nicole de Beauvais d'Autruche, I have chosen to add extensive research notes over time which present the concerns in a point by point fashion from Cawley and the response from John DuLong. I have put time into trying to make sense of the documentation presented for his wife Nicole, and so far I have hit dead ends. Her ancestry simply isn't supported by sourcing that is available to me and it is very unfortunate.
That being said, Anne Couvent without a doubt HAS royal and noble lineage which can be proven from her great great grandmother, Nicole des Ancherins. Her great grandfather, Geoffroy Issenart in a 5 April 1529 document:
"Geoffroy Issenart escuier seigneur de Landres est comparu en sa personne lequel a declaré et affirmé que les terres et seigneuries de Cornay et Fléville pour les trois quarts Sivry les Busancy Sommerence Baldrenge en la totalité e[t] ung huitiesme en la terre et seigneurie de Bourolles avec la moité dung bois appelé le bois de Cornay assis au finage dudict Bourolles et enplus la moityé de certain aultre boys assis aud finage de bourolles appelle le bois de Debat Le tout tenu et mouvant du roy notre Sire a cause de son chastel et chastellenye de Sainctemanehould lui comportent et appartiennent a cause de damoiselle Beatrix de Grant Pre sa femme a elle escheus tant par le trespas de feu Gobert de Grant Pre fils aisne de feu Edouart de Grant Pre en son vivant conte de Grant Pre que par le trespas de feue damoiselle Claude de Roucy sa mere excepte que le quart desd terres et seigneuries de Cornay et Fleville et la moityé de la tour et maison forte dudict Cornay lui comporte et appartient par appointement et accord fait entre luy et Loys de Pouilly pour ses interests courrus pour raison de la mort et occision de la personne de feu Guill[aum]e Issenart fils dudict Geoffroy tué et occis par ledict Loys de Pouilly desquelles terres et seigneuries il a joy et posseddé des quarante huit ans qu il a espouse ladicte damoiselle Beatrix sa femme et dudict quart de Cornay Fleville . . . en date du cinquiesme jour d avril lan mill cinq cens vingt neuf"
The line of Grandpré has an extensive history which is well documented. I have recently discovered that the de la Porte family, which became Saintignon and later a branch became Ancherins, was one of the three "Lignages de Verdun" which were ardent supporters of the House of Grandpré in the 13th and 14th centuries.
Until further documentation can be found regarding the de Joyeuse and Beauvais d'Autruche lines, we just don't really know. We can, however, support the Grandpré lineage with documentation.
I have created a new project, the Anne Couvent Lineage Project, to help with her ancestral profiles and sort out what is what.
Darrell E. Larocque (Larocque-466)
