Should a sub-category be made for a war cemetery within a public cemetery?

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The Sale War Cemetery is situated within the Sale public cemetery. See https://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/2023112/sale-war-cemetery/

Should a separate sub-category be made for the 58 people buried there, and if so, can someone please create that sub-category? If not, I will add Boys-540 to Category: Sale Cemetery, Sale, Victoria. 

Can someone also help me add the other appropriate stickers and categories to this profile, please?

WikiTree profile: Raymond Boys
in Policy and Style by Wendy Scott G2G6 Mach 3 (31.3k points)

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Cemetery categories should be based on the governing unit of that land. Based on a quick search, the CWGC is a plan (aka section, area) within Sale Public Cemetery, so it would not have its own category, and you are free to add Boys-540 to the existing category.

In regards to documentation (free-space) of the cemeteries, you have more flexibility here, and can have two (or more) pages as needed. As an example, the main FSP for the cemetery would be "Sale Cemetery, Sale, Victoria". The war plan can be documented on a separate FSP.
by Steven Harris G2G6 Pilot (752k points)
selected by Edie Kohutek

Well then, that prompts another question.  I have profiled some collateral ancestors who are interred in a Mumma Family Cemetery, which is located on the grounds of the Antietam National Battlefield of the U.S. Civil War (only a couple of profiles, as I recall).  The U.S. National Park Service now owns and maintains the battlefield and, I believe, the cemetery.  There is, of course, a category for the battle, and there are a bunch of existing sub-categories and profiles in that category.  There is currently no category for the cemetery (I'm not sure we really need one), but it wouldn't seem appropriate to me to put profiles of people buried there into the category for the battle or a subcategory.  The family cemetery was there before the civil war, and most or all of the deceased were not involved in the battle itself.

More info at

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Battle_of_Antietam

and you can Google "Mumma Graveyard, Antietam Battlefield" for a couple of .pdf documents about the cemetery itself.  I didn't find a good web site for it, and Find A Grave doesn't have much.

The family cemetery was there before the civil war, and most or all of the deceased were not involved in the battle itself.

Without doing any research myself, this statement makes it clear to me what we should have:

  1. Category for the battle (can be for those who died and/or participated in it); and
  2. Category for the cemetery (those who are interred there from any time period (before, during or after the battle).
That makes sense to me, and is what I was thinking also.  I'm not going to bother with a cemetery category, though, unless I get deeper into this line and create more profiles that would fit.
This bring to mind a few thoughts.

First, CWCG cemeteries primary are associated with the First and Second World Soldier. As such there burials and cemeteries which may no be recognized as cemeteries.  Two situations which I believe applies.  

The first is the  Strachon St Burial Ground located on the property maintained by the City Toronto at Fort York Armouries.  If one was to visit you would find only selected headstones - whoever the Friends of Fort York have on their website a comprehensive of those buried there.

The Second situation is a grave site located in the Fish Creek National Historical Site with about a dozen or so soldier of the North West Resistance of 1885.

How would the cemetery classification apply here?

Also why is this classification important and how and when would it be applied.
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- hi Wendy - you may wish to =  *'''Visit : VWMA'''  [https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/620806 ''Virtual Memorial'' '''Raymond Boys'''] <br>
 = for more info - and as you have the well detailed CWGC site referenced,  it could be sufficient to be in Sale for the small numbers there -
by John Andrewartha G2G6 Pilot (114k points)

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