Can we add the MOTHER"S name from the Christening record

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It seems to me that the Christening record found/ included on the profile now,  reflects the Mother's  maiden name.  Should I add "Hay"  now?  Unknown-2705 It can always be corrected later if it is determined to be a married name. Also I believe the wrong husband is LINKED?  but not sure?  AND I get a "wikitree ID does not exist UNKNOWN_2705  - not _
WikiTree profile: Walter Scott
in WikiTree Help by Carole Taylor G2G6 Mach 7 (74.6k points)
Carole, apparently there is a Francis Hay who has a marriage record that names his mother as Mary Hay.  What does that record have to do with the profile linked here? I see no son Francis attached as son.

 What a tangle.

 I agree that the marriage records don't seem to relate to anything on the profile. The marriage  mentioned in the bio in 1644  and the one  for Francis in the references are children of the Earl of Buccleugh. His  profile; Walter  Earl Buccleugh 

It looks like there have been a lot of changes in the profile  over time.  

Walter started out as a son of Walter and Mary .Then dates were added then later  changed by someone else. John and Isabel were added as parents. 

 James started out as  a William son of Walter and Mary . As William he  was  merged with  William of Harden in  March 2015. In April 2015  his name  was inexpliquably  changed from William to James. His death date was altered (the change to James was made by the same person who added John and Isabel as parents of Walter.)

Mary, the wife of Walter  was  created as unknown but was also said by the profile creator to be  the daughter of Walter and Mary Scot. 

Several  have  decided that Walter was  supposed to be https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Scott_of_Harden (the ancestry tree also goes to 'his' profile).  https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun07pauluoft/page/73/mode/1up/search/Scott

It does seem to 'fit'. (Well at least with names, I can't see any dates at the original creation)

BUT We may  have at least two other versions of this Walter: Scott-16036 and Scott-25546  but each has a different father(onr Walter, one William ).The wikipedia article says  the father was William. The Scots peerage is hard to follow but  seems to say father Walter (not positive I think you need expertise to read these pedigrees properly and I don't have that) Walter appears to have  married firstly Mary or Marion d of John Scot of Dryborough ( Scots Peerage p 74)

Conclusion; We need an expert .Seriously there are a couple of members  who have a lot of expertise in the Scottish peerage. At the moment it appears Walter and his son have been changed from their original personas .  He may have originally been intended to be Walter Scott of Harden.(Auld Wat).It is also apparent from the baptism record  that there was a Walter Scott  son of John and Isabel .They may be totally unrelated to the 'original Walter'.

1 Answer

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Include info in Research notes section, don't change LNAB until you are sure.  You can put Hay in Other Last Names to help it in searching.

Make sure to use dash, not underline, between surname and sequence number for wikitree ID
by Linda Peterson G2G6 Pilot (786k points)

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