Ynyr
"Ynyr of Gwent"
ap Ynyr
[uncertain]
Born about in Gwent, Wales
[uncertain]
[uncertain]Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Nesta ferch Gwrgan
— married
[date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Meurig (ab Ynyr) ab Ynyr Gwent
Died [date unknown]
in Anglesey, Wales [uncertain]
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Biography
Disambiguation
Three different persons known as Ynyr Gwent are sometimes confused:
- Ynyr Gwent, born 430
- Ynyr Gwent, born 950
- Ynyr ap Ynyr "of Gwent" born 1000
Birth and Parents
Boyer does not show parents for Ynyr Gwent, saying that "according to the manuscripts he was descended paternally from Ynyr, second son of King Cadwaladr. [1]
Birth Year Estimation
Ynyr Gwent was born, say, 1000 [1]
Wolcott estimates Ynyr's birth as 1030, Meurig as 1065, Ynyr Fychan as 1095, and Caradog as 1125. [2]
King of Gwent
Ynyr was King of Gwent, according to entry 43 in Bartrum's "Pedigrees of the Welsh Tribal Patriarchs. [1]
Marriage to Nest
Ynyr married Nest ferch Gwrgan, sister of Iestyn. [1]
Ynir, King of Gwentland, m. Nesta, daughter of Jestin ap Gurgan, king of Glamorgan.[3]
Issue
- Meurig, married Elen ferch Ednyfed ab Iorwerth of Crick. [1]
Research Notes
Somerby Fraud
This person is part of a false pedigree of William Arnold, the immigrant to New England, created by Horatio G. Somerby in 1870. Individual parts of the pedigree may be correct, but many of the parts are incorrect and false. Somerby's fraud is described in detail at False Arnold Pedigree.
The Somerby pedigree contains the following paragraph, which generally agrees with legitimate sources:
"This Ynir, King of Gwentland, by his wife Nesta, daughter of Jestin ap Gurgan, King of Glamorgan, had a son Meiric.[4]
Visitation of Monmouthshire: According to The New England historical and genealogical register of 1915 (which had gone through and corrected Somerby's work), the generations from Ynyr to Roger were taken from Visitation of Monmouthshire, with one generation missing from Somerby's tree immediately before Roger Arnhald.-----H. F. Waters. The New England historical and genealogical register, vol 69, page 64. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1915. Accessed 1 Mar 2022.
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Carl Boyer 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Generally follows Bartrum. Santa Clarita, California: By the author, 2004. Ynyr Gwent is #1 on page 367.
- ↑ Darrell Wolcott, Ancient Wales Studies, The Herbert Family Pedigree Accessed 9 April 2021 jhd
- ↑ "Arnold" hosted by rootsweb
- ↑ Drowne, Henry T. (communicator). "Mr. Somerby's Genealogy of the Arnold Family" New England Hist. and Gen. Register. 33:432. 1879.
- Charles Ragland's book Vol II
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