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John (Moels) de Moels (abt. 1304 - bef. 1337)

Sir John "4th Lord Moels" de Moels formerly Moels
Born about in North Cadbury, Somerset, Englandmap
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Husband of — married about 1320 [location unknown]
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Died before before about age 33 [location unknown]
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Biography

He inherited half the old feudal barony of North Cadbury. The Russells held the other half. He died without male issue.

Manor of Little Kimble
"The Moels rarely claimed the whole of Little Kimble. In 1284–6 (fn. 19) and 1302–3 Roger de Moels and John de Moels (fn. 20) were joint overlords with the Russels. John de Moels died seised before 1310 of half the hamlet of Kimble; (fn. 21) his grandson*, however, another John, held the overlordship of one knight's fee in Kimble at the time of his death. (fn. 22) He left two daughters, the elder of whom inherited Little Kimble in 1338. (fn. 23) She was the wife of Sir Thomas Courtenay, (fn. 24) and their daughter and heiress Muriel married John Dinham. (fn. 25) Shortly after this the sub-tenancy of part of Little Kimble appears to have lapsed, and thus the Dinhams, who succeeded the Moels, became the tenants in demesne of their manor.
Sir John Dinham died in 1457–8 seised of the manors of Eythorpe, Crendwell, and Little Kimble, held of Edward, Prince of Wales, as of the honour of Wallingford, by right of inheritance of Joan his wife, who survived him. (fn. 26) His wife was the heiress of the Darches family, (fn. 27) who had held the two first-named manors, and probably part of Little Kimble, (fn. 28) as subtenants, but presumably Sir John's right in the manor came also through his great-grandmother, Muriel de Moels."[1]
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Marriage

Husband: John de MOELS
Wife: Joan Lovel
Child: Muriel de MOELS
Child: Isabel de MOELS
Marriage:
Date: ABT 1327
Place: Of, Somersetshire, England[2]

Sources

  1. "Parishes: Little Kimble," in A History of the County of Buckingham: Volume 2, ed. William Page (London: Victoria County History, 1908), 303-307. British History Online, accessed March 20, 2016, [1]
  2. Source: #S4




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MOELES JOHN II Youngest son of John I de Moels, brother and heir Roger Moeles.

Roger was born c1296 died in 1316 without heirs of his body.

John was born 1294x1301 and died shortly before 21 August 1337, the third of the three known sons of John I Moeles, but unable to confirm if Matilda the recorded wife of John was the mother of his children.

[Calendar Fine Rolls EII] 18 July 1316 Westminster. Sale for 200 marks to Richard Lovel of the marriage of John, brother and heir of Roger de Moeles, tenant in chief, a minor in the king's ward, so that if John die before his coming of age and marriage, Richard shall have the marriage of his nearest heir, if he be a minor, and so from heir to heir. Commitment to Richard Lovel of the wardship of two parts of the lands late of Nicholas de Moeles, tenant in chief, until the full age of John, brother and heir of Nicholas, from Michaelmas next, except the manor of Overton, co. Oxford, at the yearly rent of the extent thereof. Order to the escheator on this side Trent to deliver the same to him.

[Calendar Patent Rolls EIII] 5 May 1328 Northampton. Licence for John de Moels to grant to Margaret de Moels [widow of eldest brother, Nicholas II de Moels], for life, a moiety of the manor of Depeford and the hundred of Staneburgh, county Devon, held in chief, in exchange for a grant of her interest in the manor of Little Berkhampstede, Hertfordshire, held in chief, which she holds for life of the inheritance of John. By fine of 5 marks made before the treasurer.

[Calendar Patent Rolls EIII] 7 September 1332 Westminster. Licence for John de Moeles to grant, for life, to Roer de Cantok, parson of the church of Herdewyk, the manors of Herdewyk and Wedon by Aylesbury, county Buckingham, said to be held in chief.

[Calendar Fine Rolls EIII] 21 August 1337 Westminster. Order to the eschaetor on this side Trent to take into the king's hand the lands late of John de Moeles, deceased, tenant in chief. The like to the eschaetor in the counties of Somerset, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall.

[Calendar Inquisitions Post Mortem EIII V8] 139 John de Moels. Writ 21 August 11EIII. His daughters, Muriel aged 15 [born 1323] years, the wife of Thomas de Courtenay, knight, and Isabel aged 13 years and more, are his next heirs.

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