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Jeremiah Green (aft. 1800 - bef. 1875)

Jeremiah [uncertain] Green
Born after in South Carolinamap [uncertain]
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died before before age 75 in Georgiamap [uncertain]
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Biography

circumstantial evidence for this link... need to dig up more concrete evidence.

Letter from Reynolds Green (great-grandson son of Balous) , written when he was advanced in age states his grgrandfather’s siblings were Shadrack and Llewellyn. (Research shows that Llewellyn was the son of Jeremiah Green who also migrated to Gordon Co., Ga near Balous). Jeremiah is nearer to age of Shadrack and Balous and thus raises the possibility that Jeremiah could have been a sibling of Balous/Shade.

To further complicate things, LouAlen Green (believed 5-May 1828 - 13-Apr 1886) appears to be a valid name for another potential brother of Balous/Shade Green and would thus support Charles' account of the Green line: http://greenfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/ However, with an 1828 birth, Balous would be 18 years older than LouAlen.

HOWEVER, i cannot 100% discount the information presented in the images presenting LouAlen as the brother of Balous and Shade Green. There's just not enough information to credit or discount this as valid.

To further try to explain this record and my suspicions/assumptions/thought process/etc: I think the first suspicious situation with this part of the green line is that there are 2 very similar names: Llewellyn and Lou Alen. What we have here is potentially the same person but one spelled phonetically while the other spelled the given way??? Could these 2 people be the same person??

there is evidence that a Llewellyn Green does exist, but is the son of a Jeremiah Green. There is evidence that Lou Alen is also a legitimate person, but there becomes an age issue (or at least suspicions).

I'll try to explain: Basing the information which i can verify and I use Balous Green as my focal point as i'm directly in this line and has been the focus of my research.

I can validate that Balous (Balis/Bayless/Balos/etc, have several spellings) had a brother named Shadrack. I have info which places them as brothers, in GA, and having migrated out of SC. Shadrack went by the nickname Shade. I have done DNA tests which definitively tied a direct decedent of Shade to my line with a MRCA within the window we expected. this being said, we have confirmed (as much as possibly can be) Balous and Shade being brothers. Shade was born 1799, Balous in 1810 meaning they were 11 years apart. There is substantial evidence that there was at least one and possibly more brothers.

Enter the Llewellyn/Lou Alen situation: So there exists a legitimate Llewellyn Green who was the son of Jeremiah Green. there is support that Jeremiah Green was from the same potential geographic area as Balous and Shade. His birth period (believed to be circa 1805) would put him in the same age range as the Green brothers we know more about. So, there is circumstantial evidence that Shade, Balous and Jeremiah were brothers and that Llewellyn (being the son of Jeremiah) was a nephew of my gr-gr-gr-grad, Balous.

To complicate things, there is a typed story circulating around which have Lou Alen as the brother of Balous/Shade. The strongest (and only real) tie for Lou Alen being a brother is his mention in the letter. Please keep in mind that this letter was written by a man who suffered dementia (as has been reported) and was at a very advanced age. We can find that this letter does contain some verifiable facts while others have been proved incorrect. So, we need to take everything in here with suspicion until verefied.

There is solid evidence as Lou Alen Green as a person living in the general area (Ryo, GA). grave stone for Lou Alen has his birth as 1828 (18years post Balous). so, even if we assume that Shade may have been the oldest (1799 birth) and Lou Alen as being the youngest (1828), we are looking at a span of 29 years between these possible siblings. While this is not outside the realm of possibility, the probability of this Lou Alen and Balous/Shade being brothers is relatively low. the URL i provided on the above biography also often interchanges Llewellyn (Lewallen) and Lou Alen. Leaves us with a bit of a conundrum.

now we have to consider if Lou Alen and Llewellyn are the same person. Could Llewellyn and Lou Alan be mistaken for the same person and we get into that spelling/phonetic situation again?

if we look at Llewellyn, his father Jeremiah was definitely in the same relative age range as Shade/Balous and can place Jeremiah in the same relative area as Shade/Balous. I don't recall the exact year in which Jeremiah was supposedly born, but it was very close to the middle of the Balous/Shade gap... which would place him around 23 at the birth of Lou Alen/Llewellyn. This is very much in the realm of possible and we can also say that this could be quite probable.

Therefore, i have this user as Jeremiah due to this circumstantial evidence; however, I cannot also discount that Lou Alen could be the brother that came down from SC with the Greens.. specifically because there could have been that 29 year difference between the eldest and Lou Alen.





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Not sure the same Jeremiah: "United States Civil War Soldiers Index, 1861-1865," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F9VZ-Q4D : accessed 7 May 2016), S.M. Greer, Private, Company C, 22nd Regiment, South Carolina Infantry, Confederate; citing NARA microfilm publication M381 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 13; FHL microfilm 881,979.
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