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James Losee (1740 - 1804)

James Losee
Born in Oyster Bay, Nassau County, New Yorkmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at age 63 in Washington, Dutchess, New York, United Statesmap
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Biography

James Losee was born in Oyster Bay, Nassau County, New York in 1740.

James was born about 1740. James Losee ... He passed away about 1804.

Hepsabeth Vail was born 16 Aug 1786, d. 8 Aug 1851; m. Samuel Lossee (b. 21 Jan 1778; d. 1851) son of James Losee and Ann Pettit[1] page 355.

Sources

  1. "Moses Vail of Huntington, L.I. : showing his descent from Joseph (2) Vail, son of Thomas Vail, at Salem, Massachusetts, 1640"
Will dated May 16, 1802.
James Losee lived in Washington, Dutchess County, NY.
Wife: Nantsy.
Sons: Simon. Samuel. James. David, not yet age 21.
Daughters: Phebe, wife of Moses Vail. Nantsy.
Executors: his sons. Son-in-law Moses Vail. All still living when will was proved. (Moses Vail is probably Vail-1190. )
Died before January 27, 1804.
New York Probate Records , Dutchess > Wills 1796-1806 vol B > image 266 of 418; county courthouses, New York.
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Named in GrandFather's 1763 Will
Simon Losee of Wheatley in the Township of Oyster Bay in Queens County on Nassau Island in the province of New York
Will written: 13 May 1760
Will Proved: 5 September 1763
Wife Margaret
son Laurence Losee
son Peter Losee
son Simon Losee deceased, his children: James, Simon, Ann and Sarah
daughter Sarah Haff - deceased, md to John Haff, her children: Peter, Simon, Jacobus, Winchey, Mary, Sarah, Martha. Granddaughter Maragaret Sammis
daughter Margaret Crooker
daughter Hannah Alburtrue, child: Jane
daughter Mary Walters
daughter Elizabeth Ireland md to Joseph Ireland
daughter Ann Totten
daughter Jane Boerum
daughter Martha Losee
daughter Charity Titus
daughter Phoebe Weeks
New York Wills Volume 24 page 201 (page 145 of 362)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G995-SHL4?i=144&wc=Q758-BZ3%3A213306101%2C226562801%3Fcc%3D1920234&cc=1920234
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Losee-106 and Losee-131 appear to represent the same person because: Birth, death years and locations are very similar, but -106 has more detail. No conflict

Parents do not conflict (only -131 lists father with good reference from grandfather's will) Children do not match, but familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GH7N-DZ9 lists 6 children (W means noted in will source of -106) David W Richard -131 Phebe -106 W Samuel -106 W - my line James -106 W Nancy - 106 W "Nantsy" -- Daniel not on familysearch or listed in Will Profile 106 lists 6 children with 2 additional sons: Simon (W) and Daniel, both which are noted as dying in 1803, Daniel abt. age 18

Son Richard remains an issue, b. 1769 in Hempstead, NY. It is fairly close to Oyster Bay NY on Long Island where James was born per profile 106. Two of the children on profile -106 are listed as born in Dutchess county, which is about 100 miles north of Long Island, and where James died and will was processed. Could James have moved his family from Long Island to Dutchess County between 1769 and 1774 when Phebe was born? The only record that I have found is the 1790 census which places James in Washington, Dutchess, NY with 3 males under 16, 3 males over 16 and 3 females. That matches up fairly well with the probable list including Richard: Richard @ 21 Simon @ 20 -- plus father - 3 males over 16 Samuel @ 12 James @ 10 Daniel @ 4 = 3 males under 16 Two daughters plus wife - 3 females. But then the David from the Will is not accounted for... unless he had already moved out of the family home.. If b. 1765, he would be 25 years old, and very possibly married..

If you concur, I will be happy to assist in editing the Biography and notes with the above.

posted on Losee-131 (merged) by Donald W Smith
Good analysis Donald, thanks.

David from his father's 1802 will may not conflict with the 1790 census because in 1802 David was not yet 21 years old; the will names him as an executor "when he shall arrive at lawful age",opening the possibility he was born after 1790.

James' only known wife was born about 1744 and died 1836. If David was born in 1790 at the earliest (to miss the census) then his mother was maybe 45 or 46 years old, which could be. So I'd give him a date of birth as "after 1790" if we merge the profiles. What do you think?

posted on Losee-131 (merged) by Douglas German
edited by Douglas German
I reviewed James' b. 1740 will written in 1802, and you may be right about David's age. There is a passage where he appoints executors in the later section stating ".. sons Simon Losee Samuel Losee James Losee David Losee when he shall arrive at the lawful age..." which supports your theory. The order of birth and names of sons matches with your profile -106.

So I'm fine with you assigning David's birth "after 1790"

Regarding his wife Ann Pettit, his will clearly states "wife Nantsy", but her gravestone is inscribed "NANCY wife of James Losee.." Due to the facts: 1) There are no other marriage records for James 2) She lived 30 years after James died 3) One of their daughters is named Nancy, and there is no "Anne" It appears likely that her name or nickname could have been Nancy, although her father's will lists daughters including an Anne and no Nancy. Perhaps Anne was a shortened (single syllable) version of Nancy. Ancestry link to her probable father Samuel Pettit's will: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8800/images/005517111_00231?pId=613906

Then we have the mysterious Richard who is listed in familysearch and Losee-131, but not Samuel's will. The two sources on familysearch are findagrave and an 1850 census, neither of which prove his parentage.

In all cases, I'll gladly accept your best judgement.

posted on Losee-131 (merged) by Donald W Smith
I appreciate the review, and have no issue w the merge.

My personal line comes through James, and w solid documentation back to his great-great-grandparents, de Zeeuw /Loyse/Losee/Losey -- an early New Amsterdam family. James' grandmother Margrietje Laurens Koeck with New Amsterdam lineage from even earlier.

Following James, his son Richard is our weak link, of little we have found. He is said to be father of Stephen Losee, Long Island farmer born 1795. Steven is my grandfather's great grandfather.

posted on Losee-131 (merged) by Tom Carroll
Possibly the James Losee who witnessed the 1770 will of Green-23086.
posted by Douglas German

Rejected matches › Jacques Lisée (1739-)

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