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John Rose Sr. (bef. 1727 - aft. 1790)

John "The Tory" Rose Sr.
Born before in North Carolinamap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and [mother unknown]
Brother of
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after after age 63 in Rock Creek, Rowan County, North Carolinamap
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Biography

John Rose[1]

Birth: Bef 1727 in North Carolina
Death: Aft 1790 in Rock Creek, Rowan County, North Carolina

( This is not my work Have no idea where this came from Rootsweb is no longer available to research ,, many family trees that were on Rootweb before DNA are not correct. Where John Rose first wife came from is questionable I have never seen any source for a first wife. Read what is written below .

Nancy Hall Anderson

Marriage #1

Spouse is Unknown Married: Aft 1750

Children

Francis Rose b: Abt 1752 in North Carolina Has No Children
Levi Rose b: Bef 1759 Has No Children
Emanuel Rose b: Bef 1760 Has Children
Samuel Rose b: Abt 1760 in North Carolina Has Children

Marriage #2

Mary Street b: Bef 1752 Married: Bef 1770

Children

John Rose b: Abt 1770 in North Carolina Has Children
Isaiah Rose b: Aft 1772 Has No Children
Benjamin Rose b: Abt 1775 in Burke County, North Carolina Has No Children
Joel Rose b: Abt 1780 in North Carolina Has Children
Unknown Rose b: Bef 1792 Has Children

This site has not been up dated since 2015 My Isaiah Rose has children.


He passed away in 1800. John Rose and his son Isaiah signed An Oath of allegiance to the State of North Carolina March 4 1777. https://docsouth.unc.edu/crs/index.pho/document/csr22-0363#p22-505

Sources

  1. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hagerj&id=I134357
  • WikiTree profile Rose-965 created through the import of Coley Wolford Stayton McCarroll Bond.ged on Aug 7, 2011 by Tom Coley.
  • Census Records

Rose family Ass. Dna We are in group M1.

There is no B in his name

We are not related to John Rose and Lucy Bennett they are in Rose family Ass. Group L. Please if you find a connection I will be glad to change my tree to reflex the match.

This is from The Rose Family Ass Y DNA My Isaiah Rose is not from John Rose and Lucy Bennett line!!!!!!!!! He is from John Rose and Mary Street.


Rose Family GROUP M1 DNA

FRANCIS ROSE OF BUNCOMBE CO., NC SAMUEL ROSE OF BUNCOMBE AND MACON COS., NC (and JOHN JOHNSON ROSE, HIS SON OR GRANDSON) JOHN ROSE SR. OF BURKE CO., NC ISAIAH ROSE OF WASHINGTON CO., TN JACOB ROSE OF BURKE CO., NC, AND GREENE CO., TN, JACOB ROSE OF CARTER CO., KY THOMAS WESLEY ROSE, TN, WV SAMUEL ROSE OF WILKES CO., NC JOHN ROSE OF PULASKI AND McCREARY COS., KY; NC GEORGE WILLIAM ROSE, WILKES CO., NC AREA

This is an interesting group, tying together Francis Rose of Buncombe and Burke Counties, North Carolina (who married Elizabeth Ford and later lived McMinn County, Tennessee and other locations) to Samuel Rose, revolutionary pensioner of Buncombe and Macon County, North Carolina (his probable father). According to Mr. Brown this Samuel Rose and Samuel Rose who is the son of John Rose Sr. who married Lydia Syzemore are at best and most likely first cousins.

This is the brother of Isaiah Rose who is the father of Hiram Rose father of John Rose d. 1899 Wright co. Mo.

Also connected is John Rose Jr. of Burke County, North Carolina, born ca 1755-1774, who may have married Mary Stafford and/or Mary Hancock. He was father of Wilson Rose b. ca 1807-1808 (m. 1st Virginia "Jennie" Vance, 2nd Bethany Mullins), Samuel Rose b. ca 1807-1808 (m. Margaret "Peggy" Cantrell) and Elias Rose b. ca 1797 (m. Nancy Hill).


This is the family of Hiram Rose b. 1803 son of Isaiah Rose son of John Rose sr. ( my family line )

Isaiah Rose was born ca 1795, lived in Washington County, Tennessee, Cherokee Co., North Carolina, and Winston County, Alabama. He married 1st to Cassa Long, and 2nd to Rachel Brown. Among his children was a son Nathaniel Rose of Arkansas and other localities. Son of John Rose Sr.

Jacob Rose born 1765-1704 was a War of 1812 soldier, and died in that war leaving a widow Lydia Burchfield. They married in Burke County, North Carolina. After his death his widow moved with her family into Kentucky, living in Carter County and other Kentucky locations. Also tied to this group is Robert Rose of Carter Co., Ky. who married Melinda Dyer. It had been thought that this Robert Rose could be connected to Jacob Rose who married Lydia Burchfield, but the exact tie is not known. However, DNA confirms there is a relationship.

A descendant of Thomas Wesley Rose (m. Bessie Osborne), of Va. is connected with this group. Thomas Rose may be a son of John Rose and Mary or Nancy Harper, but other records indicate his parents were A. C. and Wilner Rose. Family had Wise Co., W. Va. connections. Thomas d. 1943 Monroe Co., W. VA


This is the brother of Isaiah Rose father of Hiram Rose father of John Rose d.1899 Wright Co. Mo.

A descendant of Samuel Rose (b. ca 1757, m. Lydia Sizemore), through their son Charles Rose born ca 1780-1800 who had a wife named Priscilla, matches this group. This family lived in Wilkes and Ash Counties, North Carolina.

John Rose b. ca 1800 North Carolina, married Abigail Vanover, and lived in Pulaski and McCreary Cos., Kentucky has a match with Group M1.


(This Isaiah Rose is the son of Isaiah Rose who is the father of Hiram Rose and he is the father of John Rose who is the father of Elizabeth Addie Rose and Tennesse Ann Rose)


Isaiah Rose of Washington Co., Tenn., Cherokee Co., N.C. and Winston Co., Ala tests with the Buncombe Co. group, as does John Rose of Burke Co., N.C. (father of Wilson, Samuel and Elias and related to John Mc Rose). These recent tests also put the whole group closer to the Tormut Rose of Block Island, R.I. and Polk Co., Tenn. group. A descendant of Isaiah Rose of Washington Co., Tenn., Cherokee Co., N.C., and Winston Co., Ala. matches with descendants of Francis Rose of Buncombe Co., N.C. A descendant of John Rose of Burke Co., N.C. also matches this group. (This is the John Rose who was father of Elias, Wilson, and Samuel Rose, and related to John Mc Rose.) A descendant of John Johnson Rose, probable son or grandson of Samuel Rose, born 14 March 1816 (Bible), married first, April 1836, Rebecca Henly/Hemby, m. 2nd, 1860, Margaret Louisa (Chambers?) Powell, a widow. John Johnson Rose was of Macon and Cherokee Cos., North Carolina. George William Rose-b1847 & Charlotte Charity Ford-b1852 through their son McKinley Rose b. 1895 matches this group. It is uncertain at this point whether this line is descended from Francis Rose of Wilkes Co., N.C. or Joel Rose who m. Hannah Perry, of that area.


NOT RELATED TO JOHN ROSE AND MARY STREET

This is the Bennett Line,


GROUP L JOHN ROSE FAMILY OF KING GEORGE/STAFFORD COS., VIRGINIA (FATHER OF BENNET ROSE OF NORTH CAROLINA) JOHN ROSE OF CENTRE CO., PENNSYLVANIA, JOHN ROSE OF WHITE CO., TENNESSEE, BENJAMIN ROSE OF ROBERTSON CO., TENNESSEE The members of Group L are all established to be very closely related to John Rose of Stafford/King George Co., VA, who m. Lucy Bennet in 1730; and son Bennet Rose b. 1731 later of Surry/Wilkes Co., NC. They are represented by two well document descendants Abner b. 1763, through Bennett 1788 DNA results from descendants of the following establish they are very closely related, and possibly directly descended: John Rose (b. ca 1770 NC, m. Phebe), who lived in Surry Co., NC & White Co., TN. Benjamin Rose (b. ca 1770-75 N.C., m. Mary or Polly), later in Robertson Co., TN. Two tests through son John 1804. 67 markers. John Rose (b. 1802, m. Catharine Craig) who lived in Centre Co., PA. One 67 marker test through son William Craig Rose. An extension of a test from a descendant of John Rose (m. Catharine) of Centre Co., Pennsylvania has enabled our Project Administrator to estimate that John was a descendant of John and Lucy (Bennet) Rose (rather than just related to them). William H. Rose (b. ca1816 m. Elizabeth DeVault) of Knox Co., VA, Ross Co., OH, & Greene Co., IL also matches with this group. It is believed though not totally proven that William H. Rose was a son of Lewis and Sarah (Birdsong) Rose of Brunswick Co., Virginia who moved into Ross Co., Ohio. This match was a complete surprise! In addition, there are two perfect matches at 37 markers, both close to this family in VA & NC. The surnames are Hall & Sandy. As neither have matches within their own surnames, both would very likely be originally of Rose fathers, through adoption.

Nancy Hall Anderson From the Rose Family Ass Y DNA





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Rose-12314 and Rose-965 appear to represent the same person because: Same person
posted by Nancy Hall
John Rose who married Mary Street is Not Related to John Rose and Lucy Bennett .If you did your research you would see in Rose Dna Family Tree maker John Rose and Mary Street is in Group M1 John Rose and Lucy Bennett is in group L. No Dna relationship.

Please take my family off of John Rose and Lucy Benett

posted by Nancy Hall
Rose-14396 and Rose-12314 do not represent the same person because: No Jonathan Rose

Had no son Jonathan Rose Jr.

posted by Nancy Hall
Rose-14396 and Rose-12314 appear to represent the same person because: there are four generations duplicated. this is oldest generation. both have son John/Johnathan, granddaughter Rebecca, grandson John. All mergers are being proposed now. Thank you for reviewing, Teresa (WikiTree Arborist)
posted by Teresa Downey
I will not merge Mary Street with out source for other person.

Her father was John Street found in Brunswick Co. Virginia records

posted by Nancy Hall
Tom Cooley's family tree has John Rose and Mary Street.

But they are not from the John Rose and Lucy Bennett See Rose family Dna they are two different families.

posted by Nancy Hall

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