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John (Wallace) Wallace VIIIth of Craigie (bef. 1464 - 1513)

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Died after age 49 in Flodden, Kirknewton, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Preceded by
John Wallace
8th of Craigie
bef. 1499 - 1513
Succeeded by
James Wallace

Biography

John (Wallace) Wallace VIIIth of Craigie is a member of Clan Wallace.
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John (Wallace) Wallace VIIIth of Craigie was killed in Action during the War of the League of Cambrai at the Battle of Flodden Field.
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John (Wallace) Wallace VIIIth of Craigie was born in Scotland.

John Wallace was 8th of Craigie, 13th of Riccarton.[1]

He married Elizabeth, second daughter of John , second Lord Cathcart.[2][1][3][4] They had Issue:

  1. Matthew[2]
  2. James[2]
  3. John[2]
  4. William[2]
  5. Alexander[2]
  6. Isobel, m. Sir Hugh Campbell of Loudoun, sheriff of Ayrshire[2][5]

Research Note

In a section devoted to Cathcarts, Paul reports Sibella, daughter of John, second Lord Cathcart and Margaret Douglas of Drumlanrig married John Wallace of Craigie, Ayrshire. He is described as son and heir of Hugh Wallace of Craigie. There is no Hugh Wallace in this line in this time frame.[1] John did have a younger brother named Hugh.
Rodger states: He married Catharine Douglas, daughter to the Earl of Angus, now Duke of Douglass.[6] They had one son:
  1. John[6]
John's daughter Isobel is estimated to have been born prior to 1489. Allowing for a gestation period and minimum age for marriage of 14, one can infer that John was born prior to 1474. Certainly he was at least 14 when he leased land from the burgh of Prestwick on 5 Dec 1489, which also places his birth prior to 5 Dec 1475, but although he could be only 14 as a witness, one can expect he was of full age to lease land, placing his birth prior to 5 Dec 1468. Until an expert in 15th c. Scots law can confirm the minimum age requied to lease land dictates otherwise, the 1474 date will be used.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas,1905, Vol. II, Archive.org, p. 512
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 Rogers, Charles, "The Book of Wallace", Edinburgh: McFarlane & Erskine, 1889, Vol. I, Archive.org, p, 43
  3. Crawfurd, George, "The peerage of Scotland : containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: George Crawfurd, 1716, Archive.org, p. 78
  4. Collins, David, "Peerage of England: Genealogical, Biographical, and Historical", London: T. Bensley, 1812, Vol. VI, Archive.org, p. 457
  5. Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908, Vol. V, Archive.org, p. 494; N.B. John Wallace is named as 'Thomas'
  6. 6.0 6.1 Rodger, Robert, "Documents Illustrative of Sir WIlliam Wallace, his LIfe and Times", Irvine: private, 1841, Archive.org, p. xlv

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Wallace-7438 and Wallace-4629 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate. The Wallace-4629 profile had very little in the way of sources The reference to the Scot;s Peerage was for an older Wallace not the 8th of Craigie. The web site thepeerage.com link seemed correct although not a 'reliable source' and has been retained. More precisely, I copied the bio from Wallace-7438 to Wallace-4628 as there was nothing in conflict. When merging, it would be best to select only one bio and NOT a merged copy to avoid then having to delete the duplicatoin.
posted by [Living Anderson]
looks like his wife is the wrong wife according to sources it should be Sibella Cathcart.
posted by Chris Douglas B.S.