Catherine-Livingstone m John McNab & they moved to US - where?

Question

Catherine Livingstone m John McNab in 1864 in the St John's Anglican Church in Winnipeg, MB, Canada.  They moved to the US & had two children; Duncan McNab b.1866 & Margaret b. 1868.who are both shown as born in US on census.   Have looked for about 10 years for traces of this family across the line with no luck.  Can anyoe find them for me?  I think I tried Iowa & Ohio but usure now.

Answer 1

Duncan Mc Nabb

United States Census, 1900

Name:	Duncan Mc Nabb
Event Type:	Census
Event Year:	1900
Event Place:	Election District 2 Minneapolis city Ward 7, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States
Gender:	Male
Age:	34
Marital Status:	Married
Race:	White
Race (Original):	W
Relationship to Head of Household:	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):	Head
Years Married:	6
Birth Date:	Sep 1866
Birthplace:	Canada Eng
Marriage Year (Estimated):	1894
Immigration Year:	1888
Father's Birthplace:	Scotland
Mother's Birthplace:	Scotland

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
Duncan Mc Nabb	Head	M	34	Canada Eng
Mary A Mc Nabb	Wife	F	32	Minnesota
Clarence D Mc Nabb	Son	M	5	Wisconsin
Alexander Mc Nabb	Son	M	2	Wisconsin
Katherine Burns	Boarder	F	25	Minnesota
Agnes Burns	Boarder	F	22	Minnesota
Timothy Burns	Boarder	M	27	Minnesota

District: 75 , Sheet Number and Letter: 6B , Household ID: 122 , Line Number: 74 , Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) , Affiliate Publication Number: T623 , GS Film Number:

Comments

This sounds like them, but quite a few McNabbs around.  Was sure he spelled his name with McNab.  McNab-McNabb are both Scottish names.  Believe Catherine & John moved to the US in 1864 or right after their marriage.  Would there not be a census showing them?  Cannot put this down as can't be sure they are the correct McNabs.

Note:  After John died, Cstheriine returned to Winnipeg with her two children & m. Owen L Coombs, my G Uncle.  Thank you for your interest.

Answer 2

Duncan B Mcnabb

Wisconsin, State Census, 1905

Name:	Duncan B Mcnabb
Residence Place:	Eau Claire city, ward 08, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Age (Original):	39y
Birth Year (Estimated):	Abt 1866
Birthplace:	Canada
Relationship to Head of Household (Original Language):	Head
Race:	White
Gender:	Male
Marital Status:	Married
Parent 1 Birthplace:	Scotland
Parent 2 Birthplace:	Scotland
Page:	420

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
Duncan B Mcnabb	Head	M	39y	Canada
Mary Mcnabb	Wife	F	38y	Minnesota
Clarence Mcnabb	Son	M	9y	Wisconsin
Alexander Mcnabb	Son	M	7y	Wisconsin
Kathryn Mcnabb	Daughter	F	4y	Wisconsin
John Mcnabb	Son	M	1m	Wisconsin
Kate Burns	Sister-In-Law	F	30y	Minnesota

Family Number: 376 , Line Number: 87 , GS Film number: 1020447 , Digital Folder Number: 4236853 , Image Number: 00236

Comments

Not sure this is the correct one either.  Both children came back to Canada before 1873 when their mother married Owen L Coombs.  Am sure at one time had the marriage certificate to John but have either mislaid it or lost it.  Ducan was born  1866 & Margaret in 1868 in the US.  Am wondering if they aren't on a US Census for 1871 or ?

Not knowing when they left Canada for the US is a real difficulty  John McNab was b about 1842 in Manitoba.  If he died before 1871, doubt they'd be on  US Census unless Ctatherine stayed in the US until after that date.  John & Catherine were M in 1864 in Winnipeg.  That means they left for the US in either 1864 or 1865.

Answer 3

Are you sure they left because this Margaret McNabb was born in Manitoba?

Margaret Mcnabb

Canada Census, 1916

Name:	Margaret Mcnabb
Event Type:	Census
Event Date:	1916
Event Place:	Saskatchewan, Canada
Gender:	Female
Age:	48
Marital Status:	Married
Ethnicity:	Scotch
Relationship to Head of Household:	Wife
Birthplace:	Man
Birth Year (Estimated):	1868
Township:	45
Province:	Saskatchewan
District Number:	25 Prince Albert
Sub-District Number:	17
Enumeration District:	45
Page:	1
Affiliate Film Number:	T-21942

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
David Mcnabb	Self	M	58y	Man
Margaret Mcnabb	Wife	F	48y	Man
William Mcnabb	Son	M	33y	Sask
John Mcnabb	Son	M	21y	Sask
Earnest Mcnabb	Son	M	16y	Sask
Elsie Mcnabb	Daughter	F	14y	Sask
Edna Mcnabb	Daughter	F	12y	Saskatchewan
Roderick Mcnabb	Son	M	9y	Saskatchewan

Family Number: 5 , Line Number: 20 , Digital Folder Number: 004363971 , Image Number: 00088

I realized my mistake after sending this (this Margaret probably had a different maiden name)

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Am sure they were both born in the US as Margaraet is the youngest.

Answer 4

Duncan Mcnabb

Canada Census, 1916

Name:	Duncan Mcnabb
Event Type:	Census
Event Date:	1916
Event Place:	Alberta, Canada
Gender:	Male
Age:	50
Marital Status:	Married
Ethnicity:	Scotch
Relationship to Head of Household:	Self
Birthplace:	O
Birth Year (Estimated):	1866
Province:	Alberta
District Number:	43 Victoria
Sub-District Number:	10
Page:	17
Affiliate Film Number:	T-21955

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
Duncan Mcnabb	Self	M	50y	O
May Mcnabb	Wife	F	39y	Ontario
Harold Mcnabb	Son	M	16y	Quebec
Allan Mcnabb	Son	M	8y	Alberta
Wilbur Mcnabb	Son	M	4y	Alberta
Mildred Mcnabb	Daughter	F	14y	Quebec
Dorothy Mcnabb	Daughter	F	13y	Quebec
Muriel Mcnabb	Daughter	F	11y	Alberta
Edith Mcnabb	Daughter	F	1y	Alberta

Family Number: 177 , Line Number: 40 , Digital Folder Number: 004363984 , Image Number: 00492

Answer 5

Duncan McNab

Canada Census, 1881

Name:	Duncan McNab
Gender:	Male
Age:	15y
Birth Year:	1866
Birthplace:	USA
Occupation:	Cutivateur
Ethnicity:	Scottish
Religion:	Church of Eng
Head of Household Name:	Owen Coombs
Event Place:	Laveyrandrye, Provencher, Manitoba, Canada
District Number:	184
Sub-District:	E
Division:	1
Page Number:	4
Family Number:	20
Affiliate Film Number:	C-13283

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
Owen Coombs		M	30y	Ontario
Catherine Coombs		F	33y	Manitoba
Duncan McNab		M	15y	USA
Margaret McNab		F	13y	USA

Household ID: 171518 , Digital Folder Number: 4467605 , Image Number: 00002 , GS Film number: 1375919

Comments

This is the correct Ducan McNab & you will see the name is spelled the same.  This does not tell what heppened to John McNab his father or where he died?  That is my main quewtion - wherei in the US did they go to, where were Duncan & Margaret born?

For now have just US but they must have been born somewhere down there.  Difficulty with names as they are McNab & not McNabb's.  Duhcan & Margaret are twoof the most common names in Scotch chiodren in the time.

Answer 6

Donald D Mcnabb

Canada Census, 1901

Name:	Donald D Mcnabb
Event Type:	Census
Event Date:	31 Mar 1901
Event Place:	E, Lisgar, Manitoba, Canada
Gender:	Male
Marital Status:	Single
Ethnicity:	Scotch
Nationality:	Canadian
Religion:	Presbyterian
Relationship to Head of Household:	Son
Birthplace:	Mb
Page:	9

Household	Role	Gender	Age	Birthplace
Duncan Mcnabb	Head	M	37	Ontario
Donald D Mcnabb	Son	M		Mb
Margaret E Mcnabb	Wife	F	31	Ontario
Margaret E. Mcnabb	Daughter	F	8	Ontario
Alexander J Mcnabb	Son	M	7	Ontario

Family Number: 83

Comments

Wrong man.

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Duncan went back to Manitoba and this could be his son?

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Possibly but it is not certain.;  If you will note had their Mother Catherine marrying a second time to Owen Coombs in 1873 so it is natural the childre are this household.  Had this before but am still looking for death place of John McNab the falther & birthplace of Duncan 1866 & Margaret 1868.

Answer 7

Marjorie Mcnabb

mentioned in the record of Ward Moniclaus Lister and Mary Isabelle Nichol

Name:	Marjorie Mcnabb
Gender:	Female
Husband:	John Nichol
Daughter:	Mary Isabelle Nichol

Other information in the record of Ward Moniclaus Lister and Mary Isabelle Nichol

from British Columbia Marriage Registrations

Name:	Ward Moniclaus Lister
Event Type:	Marriage
Event Date:	08 Nov 1920
Event Place:	Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Age:	39
Birth Year (Estimated):	1881
Birthplace:	York Mills, New Brunswick
Marital Status:	Bachelor
Father's Name:	James Lister
Mother's Name:	Ellen Piercy
Spouse's Name:	Mary Isabelle Nichol
Spouse's Age:	29
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):	1891
Spouse's Birthplace:	Manitoba, Canada
Spouse's Marital Status:	Spinster
Spouse's Father's Name:	John Nichol
Spouse's Mother's Name:	Marjorie Mcnabb
Affiliate Film Number:	B12905
Certificate Type:	License

GS Film number: 2032874 , Digital Folder Number: 004400870 , Image Number: 01227 , Reference ID:

Comments

Wrong person

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Since Margaret ended up in Manitoba she could have married and this could be her

daughter Mary, this appears to be the right ages.

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There were many McNabb's in Canada.  Doubt this is correct as sure her daughter would not have the name of McNab.

Her mother Catherine Livingstone was born in Canada (Manitoba) to her parents who came over on a boat to Churchill in the early 1800's as first setters to Manitoba.  Will go and try to find that list for all here.

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Her daughter is not listed as a McNabb but as Nichol, mother Marjorie McNabb her husband John Nichol.

Her mother was born in 1868 and she could have easily have a daughter born

in 1891 in Manitoba.

I live in Canada and I to have a Catherine Livingstone on my tree not related to yours.

Answer 8

Not sure that this is the Duncan McNab you are asking about. 

 

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Death: 1935

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Looks like Duncan and his sister, Margaret are not living with their parents for some reason.

 

Duncan McNab

Canada Census, 1881

Name: Duncan McNab

Gender: Male

Age: 15y

Birth Year: 1866

Birthplace: USA

Occupation: Cutivateur

Ethnicity: Scottish

Religion: Church of Eng

Head of Household Name: Owen Coombs

Event Place: Laveyrandrye, Provencher, Manitoba, Canada

District Number: 184

Sub-District: E

Division: 1

Page Number: 4

Family Number: 20

Affiliate Film Number: C-13283

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Owen Coombs M 30y Ontario

Catherine Coombs F 33y Manitoba

Duncan McNab M 15y USA

Margaret McNab F 13y USA

Duncan Mcnabb

 

 

Canada Census, 1901

Name: Duncan Mcnabb

Event Type: Census

Event Date: 31 Mar 1901

Event Place: F, Unorganized Territories/territoires Non-organisés, The Territories, Canada

Gender: Male

Marital Status: Single

Nationality: Canadian

Birthplace: Ny

Birth Year (Estimated): 1866

Page: 3

 

Comments

The one second ABOVE  is my Uncle Owen L Coombs household & Catherine is defiitely living with him as they were married in 1873.  She brought her two children back to Canada with her.  

Still looking for death place of John McNab between 1868 and 1872 (about).  His name seems to be spelled McNab tho many people spell it McNabb.  

 

Want to thank everyone for trying to help me with this very old problem.  Thank you all.

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Am getting confused as to whom I am replying but this is in answer to the person who has aother Catheriine Livingstone,  Her parents came to Manitoba via Port of Churchill with others in 1812 & apparently her parents had her. in 1840's. (birth)   She was married to McNab in 1864 and they leftf for the US

Catherine retuned to Manitoba when her husband died pobably because her family still lived here.  She met & married my G Uncle Owen Coombs in 1873.

No idea if this McNabb is the same person, but they seemed to spell their name as McNab.

Answer 9

Maybe one of these is the right Joh Mcnab who died between 1868 and 1872.

John Mcnab

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

birth: 1811

death: 1871 Claremorris, Ireland

 

John Mcnab

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

birth: 1829

death: 1870 Wigan, Lancashire, England

 

John Mcnab

Ontario, Toronto Trust Cemeteries, 1826-1989

birth: 1824 Canada

death: 11 April 1871 Canada

burial: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

 

John Mcnab

Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

birth: 1824 Canada

death: 11 April 1871 York, York, Ontario, Canada

 

John Mcnab

Nova Scotia Vital Records, 1763-1957

death: 1871 Halifax, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

residence: 1871 Halifax, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

 

John McNab

Find A Grave Index

death: 1871

burial: 1871 Durham, Grey County, Ontario, Canada

 

John McNAB

Find A Grave Index

death: 1871

burial: 1871 , , Argyll and Bute, Scotland

 

John Mcnab

Find A Grave Index

death: 11 April 1871

burial: 1871 Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada

 

John McNab

Find A Grave Index

death: October 1871

burial: 1871 Forgan, , Fife, Scotland

 

Comments

Thanks so much for looking, but know he died in the US. where both children were born.  Catherine's parents came from the Highlands of Scotland (Lord Selkirk Manitoba Settlers) & either McNab's parents are from there or else he came to work in the fur trade??

Unfortunately know nothing about him except he died in US & have his marriage date to Catherine Livingstone.

Answer 10

John McNab

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Death: Feb., 1867

Note: d. age 25. Apparently Civil War vet. G.A.R. marker by grave.

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Maybe he did go down there to fight in the war between south & north.  Unsure but if he died in February, 1867, not too sure his wife Catherine would have had a daughter 1868 tho it is possible,  Suppose he could have died late in February & she produced Margaret in early January?  HMMM.....

Thank you for taking the time.  This possibility giives some new meaing to this question.  Wondering if you could look up who this chap's survivors are??

 

Also wanted to mention that there is still a McNab living in Laverandre or St Anne's, Manitoba who may be related.  Maybe I should try to contact them?