Seymour-Conway help?

Question

Hi! I was hoping an arborist complete this merge after fixing the LNAB? Neither profile manager responded, and the LNAB for Anne is Seymour-Conway (with hyphen). I can't change it. PM me if you need more info.

Merge Linky:

http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:MergePerson&user1_name=Seymour-925&user2_name=Seymour%20Conway-8&action=compare

Next, can you fix her father Seymour_Conway-1 so his LNAB is Seymour-Conway?

Finally, all Seymour_Conway-1's children should have LNAB Seymour-Conway. Most are changing the space to hypen, but a couple are off. Francis [[Conway-584]] was LNAB Seymour-Conway, but he changed his name to Seymour-Ingram by royal license in 1807. Henry [[Seymour-1358]] changed his name back to Seymour after his father's death. Robert [[Seymour-1356]] also went by Seymour, but I didn't find out when he changed it. Edward, [[Seymour Conway-3]], William [[Seymour Conway-11]] and George [[Seymour Conway-12]] also seem to have changed to Seymour at some point. I changed their current last names, if its not clear, let me know.

Thank you very much!!!

Answer 1

Anne give me info on a person ,name ,all dates where lived.We will do

just one prson at a time.If you know mom and dad,who married.

Answer 2

First of all, Arborists have no special powers to merge before the 30 day default period.   It looks like the merges were just proposed,   I did PPP the profile with the correct LNAB.

Please work with the project leaders, they can help with project protection of the profiles where needed.

Comments

Just to clarify, Seymour_Conway-8 does not have the correct LNAB. It needs the LNAB changed from Seymour Conway to Seymour-Conway before merging. The other ones I listed just happen to be wrong too. Thanks!

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Hi Kirk

The History of Parliament uses unhyphenated Seymour Conway as the last name for members of this family, see Bramber Constituency and SEYMOUR, Edward I (1663-1740), of Berry Pomeroy, Devon; Easton, Wilts.; and Maiden Bradley, Wilts and others.

The National Archives uses unhyphenated Seymour Conway (see Will of Sir Francis Seymour Conway Earl of Hertford or The Most Noble Francis Marquis of Hertford) and hyphenated Seymour-Conway.

I think we need to find some contemporary records.  What do you think?

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I looked into this some more and its very odd. When the surnames were combined they became a "double barrelled" name, e.g Seymour Conway. I want to clarify that in this case it was officially by Royal License, but the chances of us finding that are slim (and prob. not worth our time). Non breaking spaces are problematic so the convention was to use hyphens to avoid confusion with other types of names so "Seymour-Conway", or even more fun "Montagu-Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie". However, the addition of the hyphen isn't actually part of the surname so that's why some sources have them and some don't since they decide its easier/better without it. In the 19th century another trend was the unofficial double barreled name, e.g. my nemesis the Burke Roche family who are all Roche but for some reason a series of descendants had the middle name Burke, which gets written as Roche, Burke-Roche and Burke Roche depending on the source. 

I thought one of the peerage sources might have a section on their policy, which the proj. could adopt. Cokayne seems to use hyphens in the Complete Peerage and does not recognize unofficial double barreled names but I never found where he said how he picks surnames to be in caps.

I think I'll just complete the merge since technically both are correct, even if its inconsistent/confusing. Thanks for all the input!