Can I replace an entire submitted tree

Question

I hav a large tree now - in Family treemaker - with 4780 entries - largely based on a 10 volume handtyped geneaology for the Wiederhold family.  I have entered about 20% in now, and am continously cross verifying the documents.

It seems too much work to make the many entries a make when I have a working session also in the wiki tree.  And giving the soutrces, and hard to read spellings (some go back to 1260, most end around 1460).

So i'd prefer to replace the enrire tree, say once a quarter.

That will determine if I will put my tree on the Wiki. I don't mond sharing, but  I don't want to keep errors visible that I have corrected in my files

Gio Wiederhold, Prof. Emeritus Stanford.  

Some information is avalable on my website now,  

http://i.stanford.edu/pub/gio/personal/ancestors/index.html

Answer 1

I'm sorry, Gio. That's not possible on WikiTree.

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/After_importing_a_GEDCOM#Can_you_update_profiles_with_new_GEDCOM_imports.3F

Comments

That is to bad.  Since I am actively working on my large tree (now 4700 entries) and about 15000 to go from an old hand-typed 10-volume doument I cannot afford to share it now, because I will be correcting it for several years, unles I die before them.

I do think many people would like the inforamtion. It is the outcome of work of several German geneaologists over very many years, and I am sure it has entries that are not now in any public domain file.

Note that I would immediately replace it with an updated and corrected tree. My intent is not to withhold information, but make sure it is correct. I find many errors in public genealogies - and that is unavoidable when seraching through historic data..  

Let me know if your policy ever changes.

Would a solution be to just put a trustworthy base tree in and pointers to web pages I control for section that need furthjer verification?

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Gio,

It is not a policy; it's the tech design of the site.  This is a one-profile-per-person, single-family-tree wiki. Once profiles are created-- either manually or via GEDCOM upload-- the profile is part of one tree.  There are really no separate or multiple trees here.

If you and I share an ancestor and I have additional information to add, I can do so.  If you were to replace the set of wikitree profiles that overlap with your family tree on your own computer, you would wipe out any changes that I or others made to those profiles. 

 

Answer 2

Hi Gio

I share your frustration.

See earlier G2G thread http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/134874/using-a-later-ged-file-to-update-an-earlier-version

I believe it should be made possible for trusted members, GED equipped, to create deliberate duplicates for later merging, if  both records are solely managed by the same person.

I appreciate the argument of unnecessary "redirects" once records are merged, but with today's computer power and capacity, I cannot see why it should be such a major issue. Sounds more like an excuse than a valid reason.

I don't agree with the oft-cited argument that it is better to individually manually edit the old outdated record as you still have to manually edit the bios of any newly merged records. Editing a dupicate bio is infinitely easier than paintakingly entering names, places and dates.

Comments

Interesting concept, David. It would still wipe out changes made by others to shared ancestral profiles since one doesn't have to be a profile manager to edit profiles.

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But surely before you merge, in the comparison process, you respect (according to the honour code) what is already there (even by others), and click on your updated data that you want added/changed, before pressing "Merge"? With this mnaual decision step, nothing gets totally overwritten automatically.

Answer 3

Gil, on rereading your posts you say that you've entered 20% of your tree. (I presume this means onto WikiTree.)

Then you say that you'd like to replace the entire tree say once a quarter.

Instead of doing that, what is stopping you from periodically creating smaller GECOM's with your newly created people that are not already on WikiTree?

Comments

Good idea.

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There is nothing stopping that, but I think the question was different - he wants to replace profiles that he created here with their updated versions at a future time.