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Bartholomew (Badlesmere) de Badlesmere (abt. 1225 - aft. 1255)

Bartholomew de Badlesmere formerly Badlesmere
Born about in Badlesmere, Kent, Englandmap
Husband of — married about 1252 in Englandmap
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Died after after about age 30 in Castle Badlesmere, Kent, Englandmap
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Biography

Bartholomew de Badlesmere was born about 1225 and died after the birth of his child in 1255.

Bartholomew de Badlesmere, Lord of Badlesmere, Kent, England, died in 1256. [1]

Research Notes

[Alternative spelling - Badelesmere, Baddelesmere, Badlismere, Batelesmer’, Batelesmere, Bathelesmere.]

The earlier generations before Bartholomew I Badlesmere [living 1241] are recorded with reference to the Parish of Badlesmere, Kent. No confirmation can be found with cross-reference so some doubt must always exist. The manor of Badlesmere was part of the barony of Crevequer granted to Hamo de Crevequer following the expulsion of Odo, bishop of Bayeaux .

Parish of Badlesmere, Kent at www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=62986

[Calendar State Papers France A.D. 918-1206, page 485] 1163-1165. No. 1336. Abbey of St. Bertin, St. Omer. Charter of Hamund son of Herefred, notifying that, with his wife Matildis, and his sons and daughters, -----------. Hujus rei testes sunt: Various churchmen; Hugo vicecomes de Chent [Kent per index]; Bartholomeus de Badelesmere; Petrus frater ejus

Hasted, Edward. The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 6. 1798, "Parishes: Badlesmere", pages 467-481. [1  ? Robertson, Herbert. Stemmata Robertson et Durdin. Being tables comprising the known ancestors of the children of Herbert Robertson and his wife Helen Alexandrina Melian nee Durdin ... Mitchell and Hughes, London, 1893, p. 317, Table 124. [1] Hasted’s * Kent.’ ii., p. 773-4; also 1886 edition, part i., p. 6. Clutterbuek's ‘ Herts,’ iii., p. 102. Dugdale’s ‘ Baronape,’ ii., p. 57. Banks’s ‘ Extinct Baronage,’ ii., p. 23. Martin’s ‘ Leeds Castle,’ p. 111. Sir R. C. Hoare’s ‘ South Wilts,’ i., part ii., p. 86

The family of Badlesmere took their name from the manor and held it of the Crevequers. Guncelin de Badlesmere and his brother Ralph were at the seige of Acre in 1191 and it was possibly his son, also named Guncelin, who held the manor in the time of king John. [1]

There was also a Bartholomew de Badlesmere, along with his brother, Peter, who witnessed a charter of Hamund fitzHerefred to the Abbey of St. Bertin of a grant made between 1163 and 1165. [2]

The above Bartholomew is more that likely be the same Bartholomew who appears in three entries of the Pipe Rolls of the reign of Henry II. [3]

No reference was found for a Guncelin Badlesmere living during the reign of King John, but reference was found for a Giles de Badlesmere living 1215. [4]

[Pipe Rolls 16HII, page 160] 1170. Kent - Bartholomew de Bedelesmera reddit compotum de .xx. marks per recto de terra quad clamabat --- Phillipus de Caisneto. In treasury .x. marks. Et debuit .x. m. Bartholomew de Badlesmere gives acccount of 20 marks [to mark out a boundary line with???] Philip de Caisneto. Paid into treasury 10 marks and debit 10 marks. The residue of the debt paid into treasury 1171. [Page 141 [Pipe Rolls 31HII, page 231] 1185. Kent - New pleas and new agreements heard by William de Ver and Roger son of Renfrid and William Rufus and his companions. Bartholomeus de Badelesmere reddit compotum de .v. marks quia cum esset in placito, recessit a Curia sine licentia. In operatione predicta .v. marks per idem breve et per visum predictorum. Bartholomew of Badlesmere renders his account of the 5 marks because while he was in a plea, he withdrew from the Court without permission. [3]

[Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum, page215b] 5 June 1215 Runymede. Mandatum est Richard filius dominus Rex., quod sine dilatione reddat Egidio de Badenmere catalla sua quo cepit apud Badenmere pert treu captan intus ipism Reg et baronia suos. Richard the son of the lord king was commanded, that without delay he should render to Giles de Badenmere his chattels which he took at Badenmere by taking a by reason of peace that now exists between king and his barons. [4]

Writ to the sheriff of Kent. We order you that by our beloved and faithful Hamon of Valoines, Bartholomeus of Badlesmere, John of Colham, John of Asling, to inspect all the our castles which are in your bailiwick, in which there may be defects, and concerning each and all the deficiencies of each castle, and how much these deficiencies will be able to be corrected, with what haste you will be able to assure us distinctly and openly through your letter and the seals of the aforesaid knights of the Bi'gnatae, and send to us this writ.

Writ to the sheriff of Kent, that in the place of Bartholomew of Badlesmere, who, on account of his service to the lord king, cannot attend the office of coroner, let another be elected as coroner in his stead.

[BOF, pages 656, 660, 673, 834] 1242-1243. Kent - Feoda W. de Say. Henricus de Sandwico j. feodum in Ripplee de Bartholomeo de Badelesmere, ipse de Willelmo de Say. Feoda Abbatis Sancti Augustini. Bartholomeus de Badellesmere dimidium feodum in Beauwesfeld' de abbate Sancti Augustini. Feoda Hamonis de Crevequer. Bartholomeus de Badellesmere iij. quarteria in eadem de Hamone de Crevequer, et ipse de domino rege. Item idem Bartholomeus dimidium feodum in Horton' de Hamone de Crevequer, et ipse de domino rege. Bartholomeus de Badellesmere j. quarterium in Snodhurste. Oxford - Bartholomeus de Badelesmere tenet in Mungewell' feodum unius militis de Margeria de Ripariis, comitissa Insule, et ipsa de rege in capite.

[CCR HIII] 21 April 1245 Windsor. Pro Bartholomeo de Badelemar’. Rex dedit licenciam Bartholomeo de Badelemar' quod se retrahat de appello quod fecit versus Johamiem de Calecot' in comitatu Kancie de pace regis fracta et quod pacem faciat adinvicem. Et mandatum est vicecomiti Kancie et custodibus placitorum corone regis ejusdam comitatus quod apellum illud a rotulis suis extrahi faciant et eos pacem inde facere permittant.

The king granted Bartholomew de Badlesmere permission to withdraw himself from the appeal which he had made against John de Calcot in the county of Kent concerning the breach of the king's peace. And it was ordered to the sheriff of Kent and the keepers of the pleas of the county, that they should cause that appeal to be removed from their rolls, and permit them to make peace from there.

[CFR HIII] 3 April 1254 For Bartholomew de Bathelemere. The king, concerning 19 m. that Bartholomew de Bathelemer’ owes to Benedict, son-in-law of Bonamii Jew of Canterbury, has granted to the same Bartholomew that he is to render to the same Jew 100s. per annum, namely 50s. at Michaelmas in the thirty-eighth year and 50s. at Easter next following and so from year to year until the aforesaid 19 marks shall have been paid. Order to the justices assigned to the custody of the Jews to cause the same Bartholomew to have the same terms and it to be done and enrolled thus.

[CPR HIII] 10 December 1254 The Temple without Paris. Charter, at the instance of Bartholomew de Badelesmere, granting to Ralph de Sancto Leodegario, knight, and his heirs of a weekly market on Friday at his manor of Hulecumbe, co. Kent, and a yearly fair there on the eve, the day and the morrow of All Saints; and free warren in his demesne lands of his said manor of Hulecumbe and Mapelhirst.

[CCR HIII] 22 August 1256. De damis datis.— Mandatum est custod foreste regis de Whichewode quod in eadem foresta faciat habere Bartholomeo de Badelesmer' duos damos de dono regis.

Of the deer given.— The keeper of the king's of Whichwood was commanded to cause Bartholomew of Badelesmere to have two dams in the same forest as a gift of the king.

[CPR HIII] 24 July 1257 Coventry. Bartholomew de Badelsmere, who is going on the king's service to Wales, has the king's protection with clause so long as he shall be there in the service of the king and Edward his son. posted Dec 24, 2021 by [Living O'Brien] Wood-2151 You Wikipedia states: (IN respect of Badlesmere Manor:-

During the reign of King Richard I (1157–1199), the manor was held by 'Guncelin de Badlesmere', who had accompanied the king during his Siege of Acon in Palestine.[2] The manor passed through several generations of the Badlesmere family, including, Gunselm de Badlesmere (Justice of Chester and Cheshire 1232 – 1301) and 'Bartholomew de Badlesmere' (governor of Leeds Castle) after November 1317). He then obtained the king's licence to found a Priory on his lands. But nothing came to this licence.[2]

Stematta Robertson and Duerkin, in table 124 (pages 317 -318) - Badlesmere which sets out a geneolgy of the Baddlesmeres fromBarholomew Badlesmere (died 1250) of Badlesmere, kent NO MENTION OF A CASTLE! However that document cites anumber of other Printed Authorities :-

Hasted’s * Kent.’ ii., p. 773-4; also 1886 edition, part i., p. 6. Clutterbuck's ‘ Herts,’ iii., p. 102. Dugdale’s ‘ Baronage,’ ii., p. 57. Banks’s ‘ Extinct Baronage,’ ii., p. 23. Martin’s ‘ Leeds Castle,’ p. 111.

Sir R. C. Hoare’s ‘ South Wilts,’ i., part ii., p. 86

in https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-kent/vol6/pp467-481

the following extract indicates that it appears in the early daysBadlesmere was a a manor

Four years after this, the bishop of Baieux fell into disgrace, and the king seized on this estate among the rest of his possessions.

After which the manor of Badlesmere was granted by the king to Hamo de Crevequer, and together with other lands made up the barony of Crevequer, as it was called, being held of the king in capite by barony, as of his castle of Dover, for the desence of which he was bound by his tenure. (fn. 3)

Of his heirs this manor was held by the eminent family of Badlesmere, who took their surname from their possessing it. Guncelin de Badlesmere, with his brother Ralph, accompanied king Richard I. to the siege of Acon, in Palestine. Guncelin de Badlesmere held this manor, 2s before-mentioned, in the reign of king John, and was a justice itinerant, as was his brother Giles de Badlesmere, who was slain in a conflict with the Welsh in the 43d year of Henry III. anno 1248. The former left one son Bartholomew, and two daughters, Joane, married to John de Northwood, and another to John de Coningsby.

Bartholomew de Badlesmere afterwards possessed this manor, and on his death was succeeded in it by his son Guncelin, who was chief justice of Chester in the 2d year of Edward I. He died in the 29th year of that reign, and was buried in Badlesmere church, where his effigies lying cross-legged, cut in wood, was remaining in Philipott's time, then holding this manor of the king in capite, as of the barony of Crevequer, by knight's service, and paying to the ward of Dover castle, and making suit to the king's court of Ledes. He left by Margaret his wife, heir of Ralph Fitzbernard, one son Bartholomew de Badlesmere, who from the greatness of his wealth and possessions, afterwards acquired the title of the rich lord Badlesmere of Ledes,

Hasted’s * Kent.’ ii., p. 773-4; also 1886 edition, part i., p. 6.

Clutterbuek's ‘ Herts,’ iii., p. 102.

Dugdale’s ‘ Baronage,’ ii., p. 57.

Banks’s ‘ Extinct Baronage,’ ii., p. 23.

Martin’s ‘ Leeds Castle,’ p. 111.:-

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ElQ-AQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ViewAPI&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=fals States that in 1311 Badlesmere became the Constable of Leeds Castle Sir R. C. Hoare’s ‘ South Wilts,’ i., part ii., p. 86

SO I think it fair to say that from the earliest recorded Badlesmeres (Bartholomew died 1250) the family appeared to reside in Badlesmere Manor. Although there is mentin of a land swop in shropshire with the king so I am not too sure about thier early locations. Regards robin posted Mar 09, 2020

Sources

  1. Robertson, Herbert. Stemmata Robertson et Durdin. Being tables comprising the known ancestors of the children of Herbert Robertson and his wife Helen Alexandrina Melian nee Durdin ... Mitchell and Hughes, London, 1893, p. 317, Table 124. [1]
  • Hasted, Edward. The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 6. 1798, "Parishes: Badlesmere", pages 467-481. [2]
  • Hasted’s * Kent.’ ii., p. 773-4; also 1886 edition, part i., p. 6. Clutterbuek's ‘ Herts,’ iii., p. 102.
  • Dugdale’s ‘ Baronape,’ ii., p. 57.
  • Banks’s ‘ Extinct Baronage,’ ii., p. 23.
  • Martin’s ‘ Leeds Castle,’ p. 111.
  • Sir R. C. Hoare’s ‘ South Wilts,’ i., part ii., p. 86




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posted by Steve Selbrede
BADLESMERE FAMILY OF KENT

[Alternative spelling - Badelesmere, Baddelesmere, Badlismere, Batelesmer’, Batelesmere, Bathelesmere.]

The family of Badlesmere took their name from the manor and held it of the Crevequers. Guncelin de Badlesmere and his brother Ralph were at the seige of Acre in 1191 and it was possibly his son, also named Guncelin, who held the manor in the time of king John. [1]

There was also a Bartholomew de Badlesmere, along with his brother, Peter, who witnessed a charter of Hamund fitzHerefred to the Abbey of St. Bertin of a grant made between 1163 and 1165. [2]

The above Bartholomew is more that likely be the same Bartholomew who appears in three entries of the Pipe Rolls of the reign of Henry II. [3]

No reference was found for a Guncelin Badlesmere living during the reign of King John, but reference was found for a Giles de Badlesmere living 1215. [4]

References -

Parish of Badlesmere, Kent at www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=62986 [1]

[Calendar State Papers France A.D. 918-1206, page 485] 1163-1165. No. 1336. Abbey of St. Bertin, St. Omer. Charter of Hamund son of Herefred, notifying that, with his wife Matildis, and his sons and daughters, -----------. Hujus rei testes sunt: Various churchmen; Hugo vicecomes de Chent [Kent per index]; Bartholomeus de Badelesmere; Petrus frater ejus; ----------. [2]

[Pipe Rolls 16HII, page 160] 1170. Kent - Bartholomew de Bedelesmera reddit compotum de .xx. marks per recto de terra quad clamabat --- Phillipus de Caisneto. In treasury .x. marks. Et debuit .x. m. Bartholomew de Badlesmere gives acccount of 20 marks [to mark out a boundary line with???] Philip de Caisneto. Paid into treasury 10 marks and debit 10 marks. The residue of the debt paid into treasury 1171. [Page 141 [Pipe Rolls 31HII, page 231] 1185. Kent - New pleas and new agreements heard by William de Ver and Roger son of Renfrid and William Rufus and his companions. Bartholomeus de Badelesmere reddit compotum de .v. marks quia cum esset in placito, recessit a Curia sine licentia. In operatione predicta .v. marks per idem breve et per visum predictorum. Bartholomew of Badlesmere renders his account of the 5 marks because while he was in a plea, he withdrew from the Court without permission. [3]

[Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum, page215b] 5 June 1215 Runymede. Mandatum est Richard filius dominus Rex., quod sine dilatione reddat Egidio de Badenmere catalla sua quo cepit apud Badenmere pert treu captan intus ipism Reg et baronia suos. Richard the son of the lord king was commanded, that without delay he should render to Giles de Badenmere his chattels which he took at Badenmere by taking a by reason of peace that now exists between king and his barons. [4]

posted by [Living O'Brien]
edited by [Living O'Brien]
BADLESMERE BARTHOLOMEW I Parentage not confirmed. Living 1220-1257.

Latin text translated as comprehended by Carol McDonald.

[CCR HIII] 25 January 1241 Marlborough. Rex vicecomiti Kane’ [Kent], salutem. Precipimus tibi quod per dilectos et fideles nostros Hamon de Valoines, Bertholomeus de Badelesmer', Johannes de Colham', Johannes de Asling', videri facias omnes defectus omnium castrorum nostrorum que sunt in ballia tua in quibus scilicet defectus existant, et de omnibus et singulis defectibus singulorum castrorum, et pro quanto poterunt illi defectus emendari, quanta poteris festinatione distincte et aperte per litteras sigillo tuo el sigillifi predictorum militam Bi'gnatae nos certificare non omittai, et nobis mittas hoc breve. Test rege apud Merleberg', xxv. die Januarii.

Writ to the sheriff of Kent. We order you that by our beloved and faithful Hamon of Valoines, Bartholomeus of Badlesmere, John of Colham, John of Asling, to inspect all the our castles which are in your bailiwick, in which there may be defects, and concerning each and all the deficiencies of each castle, and how much these deficiencies will be able to be corrected, with what haste you will be able to assure us distinctly and openly through your letter and the seals of the aforesaid knights of the Bi'gnatae, and send to us this writ.

[CCR HIII] September 1241. De coronatore. — Mandatum est vicecomiti Kane' quod, loco Bartholomei de Badenesmer' qui propter servicium domini regis officio coronatoris non potest intendere, eligi faciat ahum coronatorem qui prestito etc.

Writ to the sheriff of Kent, that in the place of Bartholomew of Badlesmere, who, on account of his service to the lord king, cannot attend the office of coroner, let another be elected as coroner in his stead.

[BOF, pages 656, 660, 673, 834] 1242-1243. Kent - Feoda W. de Say. Henricus de Sandwico j. feodum in Ripplee de Bartholomeo de Badelesmere, ipse de Willelmo de Say. Feoda Abbatis Sancti Augustini. Bartholomeus de Badellesmere dimidium feodum in Beauwesfeld' de abbate Sancti Augustini. Feoda Hamonis de Crevequer. Bartholomeus de Badellesmere iij. quarteria in eadem de Hamone de Crevequer, et ipse de domino rege. Item idem Bartholomeus dimidium feodum in Horton' de Hamone de Crevequer, et ipse de domino rege. Bartholomeus de Badellesmere j. quarterium in Snodhurste. Oxford - Bartholomeus de Badelesmere tenet in Mungewell' feodum unius militis de Margeria de Ripariis, comitissa Insule, et ipsa de rege in capite.

[CCR HIII] 21 April 1245 Windsor. Pro Bartholomeo de Badelemar’. Rex dedit licenciam Bartholomeo de Badelemar' quod se retrahat de appello quod fecit versus Johamiem de Calecot' in comitatu Kancie de pace regis fracta et quod pacem faciat adinvicem. Et mandatum est vicecomiti Kancie et custodibus placitorum corone regis ejusdam comitatus quod apellum illud a rotulis suis extrahi faciant et eos pacem inde facere permittant.

The king granted Bartholomew de Badlesmere permission to withdraw himself from the appeal which he had made against John de Calcot in the county of Kent concerning the breach of the king's peace. And it was ordered to the sheriff of Kent and the keepers of the pleas of the county, that they should cause that appeal to be removed from their rolls, and permit them to make peace from there.

[CFR HIII] 3 April 1254 For Bartholomew de Bathelemere. The king, concerning 19 m. that Bartholomew de Bathelemer’ owes to Benedict, son-in-law of Bonamii Jew of Canterbury, has granted to the same Bartholomew that he is to render to the same Jew 100s. per annum, namely 50s. at Michaelmas in the thirty-eighth year and 50s. at Easter next following and so from year to year until the aforesaid 19 marks shall have been paid. Order to the justices assigned to the custody of the Jews to cause the same Bartholomew to have the same terms and it to be done and enrolled thus.

[CPR HIII] 10 December 1254 The Temple without Paris. Charter, at the instance of Bartholomew de Badelesmere, granting to Ralph de Sancto Leodegario, knight, and his heirs of a weekly market on Friday at his manor of Hulecumbe, co. Kent, and a yearly fair there on the eve, the day and the morrow of All Saints; and free warren in his demesne lands of his said manor of Hulecumbe and Mapelhirst.

[CCR HIII] 22 August 1256. De damis datis.— Mandatum est custod foreste regis de Whichewode quod in eadem foresta faciat habere Bartholomeo de Badelesmer' duos damos de dono regis.

Of the deer given.— The keeper of the king's of Whichwood was commanded to cause Bartholomew of Badelesmere to have two dams in the same forest as a gift of the king.

[CPR HIII] 24 July 1257 Coventry. Bartholomew de Badelsmere, who is going on the king's service to Wales, has the king's protection with clause so long as he shall be there in the service of the king and Edward his son.

posted by [Living O'Brien]
Wikipedia states: (IN respect of Badlesmere Manor:-

During the reign of King Richard I (1157–1199), the manor was held by 'Guncelin de Badlesmere', who had accompanied the king during his Siege of Acon in Palestine.[2] The manor passed through several generations of the Badlesmere family, including, Gunselm de Badlesmere (Justice of Chester and Cheshire 1232 – 1301) and 'Bartholomew de Badlesmere' (governor of Leeds Castle) after November 1317). He then obtained the king's licence to found a Priory on his lands. But nothing came to this licence.[2]

posted by Robin Wood C.Eng
Hi Issac. re your questions regarding the badllesmere "castle"

I started from:- Stematta Robertson and Duerkin, in table 124 (pages 317 -318) - Badlesmere which sets out a geneolgy of the Baddlesmeres fromBarholomew Badlesmere (died 1250) of Badlesmere, kent NO MENTION OF A CASTLE! However that document cites anumber of other Printed Authorities :-

Hasted’s * Kent.’ ii., p. 773-4; also 1886 edition, part i., p. 6. Clutterbuck's ‘ Herts,’ iii., p. 102. Dugdale’s ‘ Baronage,’ ii., p. 57. Banks’s ‘ Extinct Baronage,’ ii., p. 23. Martin’s ‘ Leeds Castle,’ p. 111.

Sir R. C. Hoare’s ‘ South Wilts,’ i., part ii., p. 86

in https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-kent/vol6/pp467-481

the following extract indicates that it appears in the early daysBadlesmere was a a manor

Four years after this, the bishop of Baieux fell into disgrace, and the king seized on this estate among the rest of his possessions.

After which the manor of Badlesmere was granted by the king to Hamo de Crevequer, and together with other lands made up the barony of Crevequer, as it was called, being held of the king in capite by barony, as of his castle of Dover, for the desence of which he was bound by his tenure. (fn. 3)

Of his heirs this manor was held by the eminent family of Badlesmere, who took their surname from their possessing it. Guncelin de Badlesmere, with his brother Ralph, accompanied king Richard I. to the siege of Acon, in Palestine. Guncelin de Badlesmere held this manor, 2s before-mentioned, in the reign of king John, and was a justice itinerant, as was his brother Giles de Badlesmere, who was slain in a conflict with the Welsh in the 43d year of Henry III. anno 1248. The former left one son Bartholomew, and two daughters, Joane, married to John de Northwood, and another to John de Coningsby.

artholomew de Badlesmere afterwards possessed this manor, and on his death was succeeded in it by his son Guncelin, who was chief justice of Chester in the 2d year of Edward I. He died in the 29th year of that reign, and was buried in Badlesmere church, where his effigies lying cross-legged, cut in wood, was remaining in Philipott's time, then holding this manor of the king in capite, as of the barony of Crevequer, by knight's service, and paying to the ward of Dover castle, and making suit to the king's court of Ledes. He left by Margaret his wife, heir of Ralph Fitzbernard, one son Bartholomew de Badlesmere, who from the greatness of his wealth and possessions, afterwards acquired the title of the rich lord Badlesmere of Ledes,


Hasted’s * Kent.’ ii., p. 773-4; also 1886 edition, part i., p. 6.

Clutterbuek's ‘ Herts,’ iii., p. 102.

Dugdale’s ‘ Baronage,’ ii., p. 57.

Banks’s ‘ Extinct Baronage,’ ii., p. 23.

Martin’s ‘ Leeds Castle,’ p. 111.:-

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ElQ-AQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ViewAPI&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=fals States that in 1311 Badlesmere became the Constable of Leeds Castle Sir R. C. Hoare’s ‘ South Wilts,’ i., part ii., p. 86

SO I think it fair to say that from the earliest recorded Badlesmeres (Bartholomew died 1250) the family appeared to reside in Badlesmere Manor. Although there is mentin of a land swop in shropshire with the king so I am not too sure about thier early locations. Regards robin

posted by Robin Wood C.Eng
edited by Robin Wood C.Eng
Where is this notional castle in Badlesmere, Kent?

There is a church there, today. Not aware of a castle. Was there once a Norman motte-and-bailey castle now gone, or is this perhaps a GEDCOM fiction? This family has a lot of noise on the web from amateur American researchers over the years who are confused about the difference between Leeds and Dover, or Tong (Shropshire) and Tonge (Kent) etc.

Thoughts?

posted by Isaac Taylor

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