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William (Baggiley) de Baggiley (abt. 1260 - 1320)

Sir William de Baggiley formerly Baggiley
Born about in Baguley, Cheshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Died at about age 60 [location unknown]
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Biography

Sir William /DE BAGGILEY/[1]

Sir William De Baguley

Research Notes

It is certain that this town of Baguley, some twelve miles from Manchester, gave the name to the family Baggiley (Baguley). There were certain Baggileys known to be resident as early as the reign of Henry 3rd, (1216-1272). An early William de Baggiley is noted by Ormerod (v1. p550), as a Witness to a "Toft Charter" in 1234. This same William makes a Grant to William Peter de Baguley for land in Baguley. William Peter then also makes the same Grant in 1260 to John, son of Hamon de Baggiley. Other Baguley names known at this time descend from Matthew de Bromhale to Richard de Bagiley & Ralph de Baggiley-(married a daughter of Hamon de Massey, name & branch of Massey unknown?). They had 3 children, John, William & Hamon.
The second son of Ralph, William gained his Estates by marrying Clementia, eldest daughter of Roger de Chedale. According to the Baguley history, William was born about 1260. This William was knighted by King Edward Ist (1272-1307) and married one of the King's daughters, Lucy Corona who was born out of wedlock. It was quite common in those days for the King to have children by someone other than the Queen. Lucy's mother (a Lady in Waiting) worked in the King's court. Sir William and Lucy had five children who all married into well-to-do families. During this time the Baguley family were quite well up in the aristocracy of England. They owned the Salt Mines in Cheshire and a mill for processing from which they made their fortune.
In 1319, Edward 2nd, (1307-1327), Sir William de Baggiley was Lord of Baguley (Ormerod v1.p550). He built Baguley Hall c1320 and was Lord of the Manor until his death.
Notes for William II De Baguley, Sir Knight:
Sir William de Baggiley (aka: de Baguley) born c 1260 was knighted by King Edward II, and later married one of the King's daughters. Her name was Lucy Corona. She was born out of wedlock. This was quite common in those days for the King to have children from someone other than the Queen. Lucy's mother (a Lady in Waiting) worked in the King's court. Sir William and Lucy had five children. The children married into well-to-do families. During this time the Baguley family were quite well up in the aristocracy of England. They owned the Salt Mines in Cheshire and a mill for processing. This is where they made their money.
In the reign of Edward II, (1284-1327), Sir William de Baggiley (aka: Sir William de Baguley) born c. 1260, was Lord of Baguley. Sir William built Baguley Hall c 1320 and was Lord of the Manor until his death. At the time of his death, he also owned a manor at Hyde and another at Levenshulme in Lancashire, plus an inn called The Ryle Thorn in Baguley. He was succeeded by his son John Baggiley (aka: John Baguley) born c 1290; who died around 1356 and his daughter Isabel as joint heirs of his property. Isabel married Sir John Leigh of Booths, a widower. Their eldest son William inherited Baguley. The manor remained in the Leigh family until the late seventeenth century, when the line terminated in Edward Leigh. He had married Elinour Tatton of Wythenshawe Hall. And although they had three daughters, there was no son to succeed him.
An effigy of Sir William is housed in St. Mary's Church, Bowden Parish, Cheshire. Not far from the old Baguley Hall. Originally there was a Baggiley (Baguley) coat of arms vis: The losenges were asure on an orange background. It is understood that this coat of anns was demolished when the property of John Baggiley (Baguley), Baguley Hall was made over to Sir John Leigh of Booths near Knutsford around 1353.
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The chart above is from a Bigelow Society document found in Volume I of The Bigelow Family Genealogy. I'm unclear how the following info fits into that but I'm open to suggestions. I did notice that William, lord of Baguley 1320, had 3 children and the chart shows Ellen marrying Sir John Legh, not Isabella. This fact is covered in Vol I page 4. And notice the ancestor list at the bottom of the page
Historical Beginnings: Baguleys
It appears that when the Normans came in William the Conquerors' time (1066-1087) the area known as Baggiley in Cheshire was held by Hamon Massy, Baron of Durham Massy, who was given it as reward for his Knights service and it was to be handed down to his heirs and successors. (Refer 1)
Around the time of King John, (1129-1216), the heir of Hamon Massy, another Hamon Massy, gave Mathew Massy of Bromhale: Bromhale, Duckenfield, and two parts of Baggiley. At this time the "Hamon Massy" heirs adopted the name Baggiley, as well. Later to be known as Baguley.
It is certain that this town gave the name to the family Baggiley (Baguley). There were certain Baggileys known to be resident as early as the reign of Henry III, (1216-1272). Baguley is about twelve miles from Manchester.
The International Genealogical Index indicate births as early as 1170 in the area. If the above statement is true then our original name was therefore Massy.
As to whether Hamon Massy, Baron of Durham was a direct ancestor of Sir William de Baggiley (aka: de Baguley) still has to be established.
Sir William de Baggiley (aka: de Baguley) born c1260 was knighted by King Edward I, and later married one of the King's daughters. Her name was Lucy Corona. (see below) She was born out of wedlock. This was quite common in those days for the King to have children from someone other than the Queen. Lucy's mother (a Lady in Waiting) worked in the King's court. Sir William and Lucy had five children. The children married into well-to-do families. During this time the Baguley family were quite well up in the aristocracy of England. They owned the Salt Mines in Cheshire and a mill for processing. This is where they made their money.
In the reign of Edward II, (1284-1327), Sir William de Baggiley (aka: Sir William de Baguley) born c1260, was Lord of Baguley. Sir William built Baguley Hall c1320 and was Lord of the Manor until his death. At the time of his death, he also owned a manor at Hyde and another at Levenshulme in Lancashire, plus an inn called The Ryle Thorn in Baguley. He was succeeded by his son John Baggiley (aka: John Baguley) born c1290; who died around 1356(Refer 2) and his daughter Isabel as joint heirs of his property. Isabel married Sir John Leigh of Booths, a widower. Their eldest son William inherited Baguley. The manor remained in the Leigh family until the late seventeenth century, when the line terminated in Edward Leigh. He had married Elinour Tatton of Wythenshawe Hall. And although they had three daughters, there was no son to succeed him. (Refer 3)
An effigy of Sir William is housed in St. Mary's Church, Bowden Parish, Cheshire. (Refer 4) Not far from the old Baguley Hall. Originally there was a Baggiley (Baguley) coat of arms vis: The losenges were asure on an orange background. It is understood that this coat of arms was demolished when the property of John Baggiley (Baguley), Baguley Hall was made over to Sir John Leigh of Booths near Knutsford around 1353.
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Historical Baguley information: The third manor, that of Baguley which formed part of the parish of Bowdon, came into the hands of the Baguley family from the Masseys certainly by the early thirteen century. They took their name from the place. They retained it till the year 1355 when John, the son of Sir William de Baguley granted his manors there and at Hyde and Levenshulme to John Legh of Booths near Knutsford who married Isabel, daughter of Sir William and sister of John. The Baguley's became a family of importance in the late twelfth and early thirteenth centuries, being witnesses of many important charters, e.g. in Northendon and Stockport. A charter of 1316 confirms the ownership by William de Baguley of land in Wythenshawe lying in Middle Eye near the land of William Mascy (probably near the Mersey-eye meaning an island or land liable to flooding). As we have seen in 1318 Nicholas de Eton, Lord of Stockport, granted Ruyul (perhaps near Ryle Thorn or Royal Thorn) and Alveley Hey (now Haveley Hey) to Sir William de Baguley and his heirs. The Baggeleghs were among the wealthy lay families owning the Cheshire salt mines. A Thomas de Baguley fought for King Edward III at the battle of Poitiers and later from Knutsford pleaded for more recognition of his services. It is probable that Sir William built the great Baguley Hall, the most important building in our area at the period of the greatest eminence of the family in the early fourteenth century in the style of the times (Smithills Hall at Bolton is a close parallel) using timber, so tradition says, from Lyme Park, with the owners of which, the Leghs, he was connected by marriage. This hall is the earliest and most massive of the three medieval manor houses in the area. Ormerod gives a list of the members of the Legh family who held the manor until the seventeenth century. It finally passed into the hands of the Tattons in 1825 when all three manors for the first time came into common ownership.
Extract from Wythenshawe A History of the townships of Northendon North Echells and Baguley

Sources

  1. Source: #S1 Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Lucy (Born out of wedlock) Corona




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Baggiley-3 and De Baguley-5 appear to represent the same person because: Same dates, same spouse.
posted on De Baguley-5 (merged) by Dan Norum

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