Henry Thomas (abt. 1710 - 1756)

Born about 1710 in Newchurch, Monmouthshire, Wales [uncertain]

Descendants

Died 17 Dec 1756 at about age 46 in Newchurch, Monmouthshire, Wales [uncertain]

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Biography

Henry was born about 1710 (before 1720). Henry Thomas ... He passed away after 1737, possibly on 17 Dec 1756.^[1]

Research Notes

In 1895 there are three farms listed in Newchurch: Glyn, Upper Glyn and Lower Glyn.^[2] This is an oft-encountered pattern of farm names in Wales, and may also have been known as Glyn, Glyn Isaf and Glyn Uchaf; in Henry's time it may have been all one farm. Such a cluster often describes a mansion with two attached farms.

A 19th century Ordnance Survey map^[3] shows "Lower Glynn" just to the North-West of Itton, but does not deem Glyn Farm or Upper Glyn Farm worthy of mention. A chapel was opposite Lower Glyn Farm - Kelly's states "There are chapels for Wesleyan Methodists .... at the Glyn". (These would be English-speaking - there were separate chapels for Welsh Methodists).

A recent OS map shows Glyn Farm at OS grid ref. ST478970. Upper Glyn Farm is further up the Devauden road at ST478977. Lower Glyn Farm is at ST479965. Near there is Glyn House, a small freehold, perhaps modern or a chapel conversion (there is no chapel here on this map), close by Lower Glyn. The area around Lower Glyn Farm is marked "Glyn" in heavier type (perhaps the location of an earlier mansion?), and there is a Glyn Brook there.

Possible relatives

A Thomas Thomas (brother?) of Glyn was buried at Newchurch on 30th May 1778. [Parish register of Newchurch or possibly Llanfaches (original image); Welsh Archive Services], having married Anne Stevens in the same place on 26th Oct 1772.[Newchurch marriage register; Gwent Family History Society. Note that the Welsh Archive Services transcription is in error - the image clearly shows 26th not 6th.]Barrington-69 11:55, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Newchurch parish is a relatively small and scattered community, and not many Thomases are showing up there. There are several records showing a Henry Thomas as father, so maybe we can build a small tree of the Newchurch Thomases from the data we have. But I cannot find birth or death records for Henry, so where did that date originate from? Barrington-69 00:00, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

A son Henry is possibly that with a Newchurch baptism register entry: "Son of Henry by the Gwin, baptised 24th June 1744", with no mother indicated, as for son John. The previously added Henry I think is not credible. If our new Henry is correct and the other one emigrated, it's doubtful that the name would be re-used like that.Barrington-69 11:55, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

A daughter Elizabeth is remotely possible, baptised 19th Dec 1736 [Newchurch baptism image again]. However, the father (no mother shown) is of "East End". Now, the village of Newchurch was divided for historical reasons into East and West sides. The Eastern bit would probably have covered all land as far as "Glin". Henry is shown as "labourer".

Sources

1. ↑ A source for this information is needed.
2. ↑ http://places.wishful-thinking.org.uk/MON/Newchurch, citing Kelly's Directory of Monmouthshire & South Wales, 1895. Transcribed by Rosemary Lockie, © Copyright 2011
3. ↑ Vision Of Britain - Newchurch, Monmouthshire

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