John Lloyd (1575 - bef. 1636)

Born 1575 in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Ancestors

Husband of Catrin (Wynne) Lloyd — married about 1610 in Wales

Descendants

Died before 25 May 1636 before age 61 in Meifod, Montgomeryshire, Wales

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Biography

John Lloyd was born in 1575 at Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He married Catrin/Katherine Wynne.^[1][2] Their son Charles was born in 1613,^[1][2] so they may have married in about 1610.

Catrin was probably the Katherine Lloyd, wife of John, buried at Meifod, Montgomeryshire on 15 April 1625.^[3] John married again: in his will, his wife is named as Elizabeth.^[4]

John lived at Coedcowryd, Dolobran, Meifod, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He wrote some poetry.^[4]

John was buried on 25 May 1636 at Meifod, Montgomeryshire, Wales.^[1][2] His will was proved in 1636.^[4] It survives in an incomplete state and names four children: a son, Charles, and three daughters, Dorothy, Margaret and Elizabeth.^[5]

Family

"He married Katharine daughter of Humphrey Lloyd (who assumed the name of Wynn) of Dyffryn. ^[6]Humphrey (Lloyd) was the son of John Lloyd and Margaret his wife, who was a descendant of Sir Roger Kynaston, Knight, and his wife Elizabeth Grey, daughter of Sir Henry Grey, Earl of Tankerville in Normandy, and Lord of Powis and his wife Autigone, daughter of Humphrey Plantaganet, Duke of Gloucester." page 189 in Collections historical & archaeological relating to Montgomeryshire, Volume 12, published by Powys-land Club and available on Google Books.

X John Lloyd, of Dolobraii (born 1575), who married his cousin Katharine, the daughter and coheiress of Humphrie Wynn, of Dylfryn, son of the above named John Wynn, of Dyflryn, by his wife Margaret, daughter of Sir Roger Kynaston. " He kept his abode at Coedcowryd, and wainscoted the parlour thereof and lived there in great state, having twenty-four men with halberts to attend him to Meivod Church, and placed them in his great pew under the pulpit. He also bought Owen John Humphrey's estate in Meivod." He appears as " Johes Lloyd, gen." on the county Grand Jury, 8 James I., and as " Jokes Lloyd de Dolobran, gen." 20 James I., and as " JoJies Lloyd, of Dolobran, Ar.," as a grand juror or magistrate in 2nd, 4th and 9th Charles I. He disappears from the list. of Justices of the Peace 14 Charles I. He was succeeded by bis son :

XL Charles Lloyd (I.), of Dolobran (born 1613). He married Elizabeth Stanley, daughter of Thomas Stanley, of Knockin, in the County of Salop (son of Sir Edward Stanley, son of Sir Foulk Stanley, son of Sir Piers Stanley, son of Sir Rowland Stanley, brother of Lord Strange, of Knockin). "

Research Notes

Children

David Lloyd has previously been shown on WikiTree as son of John Lloyd and Catrin Wynne. This relationship is tentatively shown, with no sourcing and with warnings about the uncertainty of relationships for earlier Lloyds, in a website which includes a page for descendants of David Lloyd and Eva Goch.^[7] There is no reliable source for it.

Another David Lloyd, whose profile at 29 November was unsourced, has also been previously shown on WikiTree as a son of John.

The Pease genealogy site has a lengthy tree for the Lloyd family which suggests that Catrin and John Lloyd had a son called Samuel, with no source, but does not name a son called David.^[8]

John's will - which survives in an incomplete state - refers to his son Charles and his daughters Dorothy, Margaret and Elizabeth but does not mention other children.^[5]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. I, p. 432, CHERLETON 16, Google Books
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. III, p. 593, LLOYD 14
3. ↑ Montgomeryshire Burials, FindMyPast
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2} Dictionary of Welsh Biography, entry for 'LLOYD family, of Dolobran, Montgomeryshire', web, accessed 29 November 2021
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} John Lloyd : will, 1636, National Library of Wales, SA 1636-125, catalogue entry and linked image of will
6. ↑ Collections historical & archaeological relating to Montgomeryshire
7. ↑ Descendants of David Lloyd and Eva Goch, accessed 29 November 2021
8. ↑ Pease genealogy website, 'Descendants of Ivan Teg Lloyd of Dolobran', p. 1, PDF, accessed 29 November 2021

• UK, Extracted Probate Records, 1269-1975

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• "Wales, Montgomeryshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912," database, FamilySearch [1] : 11 February 2018), John Lloyd, 14 Jul 1645, Burial; from "Parish Records Collection 1538-2005," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Llanwddyn, Montgomeryshire, Wales, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm .