Elizabeth
St John
formerly [surname unknown] aka Seeley
Born about in Botolph, Bishopgate, London, England
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of
Matthias St John
— married
about 8 Jun 1655 in Norwalk, Connecticut
Descendants 
Mother of
Mary (St. John) Hyatt, Ebenezer St. John, Mathias St John III, James (St John) St. John and Samuel St John
Died
at about age 100
in Connecticut
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Biography
Disputed Origins
Many online trees and her findagrave memorial claim, without source, that she was Elizabeth Seeley, daughter of Captain Robert Seeley and his wife Mary Heath Mason, but there is no contemporary source found yet to confirm this surname or these parents.
- Researcher Suzanne St John explains that the Seeley connection appears to be a misinterpretation of Mathias St. John's 1669 will in which he made of bequest to "marther selle one cowe and one ewe". Some have interpreted "marther" to mean "mother," but given that the same will made reference to his "mother Joan in London," such interpretation is inaccurate.
A Seeley Society query suggests that Elizabeth was born in Norwalk, Connecticut in 1634, and that she had four St. John offspring.[1]
This profile claims she died 5 Sep 1732, without source. Her findagrave profile claims, also without source, that she died 17 May 1728.[2]. An accurate source for her real death date is sought.
According to Suzanne St. John, of the St. John Genealogy Project and Ancestry DNA Database, and citing “Lineage & Biography of St. John Family” by Archie St. John, 1946, Elizabeth, the wife of Mathias II (1628-1728), was a first cousin and probably baptized 6 November 1631 at St. Botolph's Bishopsgate, London, the daughter of Mathew St. John (1611-1670) (himself son of Sir William St. John, knight 1562-1638)) and Sara, based on DNA evidence.[3]
- However, auDNA (autosomal) traced this far back is not conclusive. See G2G question and answer.
Sources
- ↑ http://www.seeley-society.org/queries/
- ↑ Find A Grave: Memorial #110829808
- ↑ The St. John Genealogy Project and Ancestry DNA Database, Elizabeth St. John.
See also:
- http://www.seeley-society.net/news/2004nov.pdf page 13 lists tentative query about Elizabeth Seeley and date of marriage to Matthias St. John.
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Elizabeth:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Elizabeth:
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~0.39%
Donna Jean Wykoff
:
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch FB18394 [compare], Ancestry member donnajeanhaunch
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~0.39%
Kay (St. John) Braddock :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A363430 [compare], Ancestry member kbraddock2214
- DNA Help Needed : St. John of Connecticut. Nov 13, 2023.
- Please PPP this profile Mar 4, 2017.
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• According to “Lineage & Biography of St. John Family” by Archie St. John, 1946, the wife of Mathias II (1628-1728) was Elizabeth St. John, a first cousin. She is probably the daughter of Mathew St. John, (son of Sir William St. John, knight 1562-1638)) and Sara. Her sister Sara was the likely wife of John Gregory, a shoemaker like her father, Mathew St. John. We are also a match to a descendant of John Gregory whose only link to the St. John family is the wife of John Gregory.
see the comment below by Perrin Ayers. She is a DNA match to my brother Jason and we descend from Mathew's son Mathewes the brother to Elizabeth and Sara. Her mtDNA matches Mathias II's daughter Mary St. John and Mary's mother is probably Elizabeth St. John to also match my branch.
edited by Suzanne St. John
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1661589/dna-help-needed-st-john-of-connecticut
Source for Mathew
The Grand Panel of the county of Wexford, in the county of Wexford, the 25th of July 1608 had listed as a Gentleman of Fethard, “Mathew Sigen of Sigenstoune, Gent” [Mathew St. John of St. Johnstown [Castle], Gentleman] . St. Johnstown is an area of Fethard encompassing 857 acres, 2 roods, 33 perches with a castle by the same name.
See https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/d3c131ed-54ec-4240-b7d3-3928fb55bbc1
I'm working on Sir William St. John's profile here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/St_John-5539
edited by Suzanne St. John
See St. John
So the merges can wait if desired, unless someone else enters documentation.