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Philip ap Llewelyn (abt. 1322 - abt. 1388)

Philip ap Llewelyn
Born about in Sain Pyr, Matharn, Monmouthshire, Walesmap
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Son of and
Brother of and
Husband of — married 1379 in Merthyr, Glamorgan, , Walesmap
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Died about at about age 66 in Monmouthshire, Walesmap
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Biography

Philip was born about 1334.

Name:
Married before 1388, Wales[1]

Research Notes

Estimated Dates: Born c1322 based on the profile for his older brother having c1320, which is "rounding up" the estimate given by a biographer for Ifor Hael (c1313-1319).[5] Death about 1388 (instead of 1382) is to accommodate the birth year on one of the duplicate profiles for his daughter (neither of the profiles for his daughter has support for the birth year - the other has born c1382, with the note that it's based on the 1382 death date for the father)..

Location Notes: Sain Pyr = St. Pierre (according to suggestions in the dropdown location menu). Mathern, in Welsh, is Matharn.[6]

WikiData Hint: Possible Mother on WikiData → Wikidata: Item Q76018960 help.gif (11 March 2024)

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Source: #S-2024265480
  2. ↑ Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid=-94782809
  3. ↑ Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid=-94782809
  4. ↑ Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid=-94782809
  5. ↑ Dictionary of Welsh Biography: Ifor Hael, patron of bards, by Sir Ifor Williams (accessed 7 April 2022).
  6. ↑ Wikipedia: Mathern (accessed 7 April 2022).
  • S004444: Ancestry Family Trees (Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members)
  • S-2024265480: Ancestral File v4.19, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
  • AFN: V9XR-N1 (possibly the AFN for #S-2024265480)

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile Ap Llywelyn-9 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams. See the Llywelyn-9 Changes page for the details of edits by Ted and others.
  • A profile for this person was created through the import of My Family File.ged on 19 May 2010.
  • A profile for this person was created through the import of master 11_12.ged on 21 October 2010.




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Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
duplicate profiles for daughter have birth dates of 1382 & 1388, the latter triggers a database error since this profile has death as 1382 (update- now it has 1388).

Text says he married before 1388. Both dates are likely based on the 1382 & 1388 birth years given for his daughter (or vice versa... just checked Philip-6 & it says "Birth about 1382 is based on death date from father's profile (Ap_Llywelyn-9); previous date of 1388 was apparently based on death date from mother's profile.").

The daughter's LNAB should be "ferch Philip".

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Rosner-239 PE Rosner
Thanks for completing the merge. I am not pre-1500 certified on wikitree and can make no changes or corrections like that on pre-1500 profiles. You can if you'd like.
posted by PE Rosner
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
update - merge completed

Ap Llywelyn-9 and Ap Llewelyn-28 appear to represent the same person because: same parents/wife/places/etc. Please merge. Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Harry Kelly
He died in 1382 yet is the father of Gwenllian B. 1388, 6 years after Philip's death.
posted on Ap Llywelyn-9 (merged) by Harry Kelly

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