Agnes (Dymond) Rice (1887 - 1966)

Born 13 Aug 1887 in Cadoxton, Glamorgan, Wales

Ancestors

Wife of Thomas Hyde — married 3 Oct 1904 in Healey, Yorkshire, England

Wife of John William Rice — married 9 Apr 1934 in Bournemouth, Dorset, England, United Kingdom

Descendants

Died 11 Nov 1966 at age 79 in Bournemouth, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom

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Biography

Agnes (Dymond) Rice was born in Glamorgan, Wales.

This profile is part of the Dymond Name Study.

This profile is part of the Barry, Glamorgan One Place Study.

Notes/Questions/To Do List

I can not see that any Biography is complete unless you have a video of the persons life. . . .So lets just say its work in progress . . . . .Geoff Rice

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You are welcome to correct my spelling and grammatical mistakes as English was always my worst subject

Agnes was born in Cadoxton See External Links just a short distance South West of Cardiff in South Wales on the 13th August 1887, She had an older Brother and Sister George and Ida May. The family moved about a lot due to her fathers work and 3 years on they had moved North to the Wirral, in Cheshire, Where she had a Brother Robert. The following year we should have found her in the 1891 Census but the whole family managed to miss the Census in April but in November she had another Baby Brother William Henry this time born in Saddleworth, Yorkshire.
Agnes's father George must have herd that work was available building the Dams in Elen Valley Mid Wales See External Links and they moved again. work started in 1893 building a village for the navvies (workers) including a school and a hospital and a railway to take the workers to the dams, It is probable that George got Hut 85 because it was in this hut that on 4th Febuary 1895 his Mother, Agnes's Grandmother died she may of just been visiting as no other records show her as living in the village. . . six months later Agnes got another brother birth registered in Rhayader so he was probably born in Elen Village.
Another 4 years pass and Agneses family enter a turbulent period of the family history, First in 1899 It appears her Mother dies in Bromsgrove when Agnes is only 12 years old why Mary is in Bromsgrove area we do not know why she is in Bromsgrove unless she was visiting family or friends in the area and then within 6 Months her Father marries again, this time to Emily who is only 2 years older than his eldest Daughter Ida May. This could be the reason that 18 months later in the 1901 Census Agnes now 14 is living with her older Sister "still in Elen Village" and not with her Father who has moved to Roath, Cardiff.

People and details listed at the address, Elan Village, Rhayader, Llanwrthwl (Brecon), Radnorshire, Wales, on the date, 31Mar1901,include:-

Three years after the Census Agnes is back in Yorkshire to Marry Thomas Hyde on the 3rd October 1904 in Healey, Agnes is just 17.
Four years later Agnes's first Baby but its not a Hyde baby its registered as Florance May Rice born in Llanharran, Glamorganshire, and 2 years later another Daughter Annie in Bleangarw, also in Glamorganshire, which is where they are living at the time of the 1911 Census,

On the 02 Apr 1911 these people in the table below, listed their details as being at the address, Wales in the England and Wales Census,

John and Agnes went on to have another 4 children in the next 9 years in 4 different places, Agnes in 1912 and Registerd in Bridgend, John Henry in 1915 Born in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Frederick in 1918 Registered: Merthyr Tydfil. Mid Glamorgan, and finally Joseph in 1920 born in Hengoed, Carmarthenshire, this may of been because they where not married, although they must have spent a few years in Hengoed as I remember my Father Joseph saying about going to school in Hengoed. After 15 years and 6 children while moving around South Wales Agnes and John moved to Bournemouth on the South Coast sometime during the late 20's but it is also a sad time as Agnes's Father dies back in Newport, South Wales in December 1929 and then 12 Months later Annie who is only 20 years old dies in Bournemouth.
Monday the 9th April 1934 at 61 Southcote Rd, Bournemouth, must of started just like any other day as my Father Joseph new nothing about anything special going on, it was not until after Agnes's death that my father found out that on this day Agnes and John got married at the registry office in Bournemouth and the Witness's on the Marriage Certificate are George and I.M. Dymond probably Agnes's Brother and Sister Ida May.
I asked my Father Joseph about this when he found out and this is what he said, Agnes had been married to an Irish man who had been violent and abusive and that she had run away from him but as he was a catholic he had refused to give her a divorce I have not researched Thomas Hyde and can not say if he was Irish or Catholic. That's the story as told to me and I have no reason not to believe it.
The 1939 Electoral Roll shows they have moved to 50 Orcheston Road. Bournemouth. and Agnes is unpaid domestic duties housewife but it is the year of the outbreak of WW2 and with 3 sons all old enough to go to war, it must have been a very worrying time, The oldest, John gets married in 1939 and is off to war but within just a few months he is killed at Dunkirk on the 27 May 1940, he was 24.
Her middle son Frederick who in 1939 was working as a Lorry Driver and he joins the R.A.F. and is a driver for the R.A.F. in the U.K. and North Africa but he still finds time to get married in January 1942 to Gladys Stigwood,
Her youngest son Joseph is in the Army and spends the war on searchlights in the U.K. and then following the front lines all the way from the beaches of France to Berlin
In 1948 her third son gets married "Joseph" Married Phylis Mary Maton on 28 July in Bournemouth and at that time she was still living at 50 Orcheston Road, with her Husband John, 4 years later I was born "Geoff Rice" but only 10 months after that she lost her husband John who died on the 3 April 1953
I can only remember meeting my grandmother a hand full of times and remember her dressed in black sat by the fire on which she did some of her cooking as I remember her boiling an egg for me on the fire "it was giggly I hated it"
She continued to live at 50 Orcheston Road until her death on 11 November 1966
This is just my idea of a Biography for my Grandmother, I have said very little about her Daughters or her other Grandchildren, Its up to others to fill in the story, SO FEEL FREE to edit and improve the story or at least tell me so as I can add it == Geoff ==

Personal Life Event Timeline

1887 Birth: Born on 13th August in Cadoxton, Glamorgan, Wales ^[1] Map
1890 Birth: Brother Robert Dymond Born about May in Wirral, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom Map

1891 Census ????? ^[2]

1891 Birth: Brother William Henry Dymond Born about November in Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom Map
1895 Death: Grand Mother Maria Fewings Died on the 4 Feb 1895 in hut 85, Elan Village, Rhayader,
1895 Birth: Brother John Thomas Dymond Born about August in Rhayader, Radnorshire, Wales, United Kingdom Map
1899 Death: Mother Mary Dooley dies in Bromsgrove ^[3]
1901 Census Lived in Elan Village, Rhayader, Llanwrthwl (Brecon), Radnorshire, Wales. Relation to Head Sister in Law ^[4] Map

1904 Marriage: To Thomas Hyde On 3rd October in Healey, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. ^[5] Map
1908 Birth: Daughter Florence May Rice was born in Llanharran, Glamorganshire, Wales, ^[6] Map
1910 Birth: Daughter Annie Rice was born in Bleangarw, Glamorganshire, Wales, ^[7] Map

1911 Census Lived at 9 Herbert St, Blaengarw, Bridgend, Wales. Relation to Head Wife. ^[8] Map

1912 Birth: Daughter Agnes Rice was born 24 July 1912 Registerd in Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales ^[9] Map
1915 Birth: Son John Henry Rice was born in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales ^[10] Map
1918 Birth: Son Frederick Rice was born 8 January 1918 Registered: Merthyr Tydfil. Mid Glamorgan, Wales ^[11] Map
1920 Birth: Son Joseph Rice was born 3rd June 1920 in Hengoed, Carmarthenshire, Wales, United Kingdom. ^[12] Map
1920 Residence 34 Hengoed Avenue, Hengoid, South Wales ^[13]Map
1929 Death: FatherGeorge Dymond Died in Dec 1929 in Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Map
1930 Death: Daughter Annie Rice Died in Dec 1930 in Bournemouth, Dorset, England ^[14] Map
1934 Residence: 61 Southcote Rd, Bournemouth, Hampshire. ^[15]Map
1934 Marriage: to John William Rice on 9th April 1934 in Bournemouth, Hampshire, England^[16] Map
1939 Electoral Roll: Residence 50 Orcheston Road. Bournemouth. Occupation: unpaid domestic duties housewife. Map
1940 Death: Son John Henry Rice Died 27 May 1940 in Dunkirk (Dunquerque), Departement du Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, ^[17] Map
1942 Son Frederick Rice Married Gladys Stigwood on 31 January 1942 in Bournemouth Dorset, England
1948 Residence: 50 Orcheston Road, Bournemouth ^[18]Map
1948 Son Joseph Rice Married Phylis Mary Maton on 28 July 1948 at Immanuel Church, 120 Southbourne Road, Southbourne, Bournemouth, BH6 3QJ ^[19] Map
1952 Child: Grandchild Geoffrey Rice was born on 14 June in Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Map
1953 Death: Husband John William Rice on 3 April 1953 in Bournemouth, Hampshire, England^[20] Map
1966 Death: Agnes (Dymond) Rice Died on 11 November 1966 in Bournemouth, Dorset, England, United Kingdom ^[21] Map

Timeline Pictures

External Links

Cadoxton Wikipedia
Powys Digital History Project
Elen Valley Elen Valley Web Site
Elen Valley Wikipedia

Sources

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch ([1] : 1 October 2014), Agnes Dymond, 1887; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast ([2] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.
• "England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch ([3] : 8 April 2016), Agnes Dymond in household of Nathaniel Tipper, Llanwrthwl (Brecon), Radnorshire, Wales; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast ([4] : n.d.); citing Rhayader subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

• "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch ([5] : 13 December 2014), Agness Dymond, 1904; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast ([6] : 2012); citing 1904, quarter 4, vol. 9D, p. 1277, Leyburn, Yorkshire, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch [7] : 1 October 2014), Florence May Rice, 1908; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [8] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch [9] : 1 October 2014), Annie Rice, 1910; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [10] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch ([11] : 3 August 2017), Agnes Rice in household of John Rice, Llangeinor, , Glamorganshire, Wales; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast ([12] : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch [13] : 1 October 2014), null in entry for Agnes Rice, 1912; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [14] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch [15] : 1 October 2014), null in entry for John H Rice, 1915; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [16] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch [17] : 1 October 2014), null in entry for Frederick Rice, 1918; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [18] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch [19] : 1 October 2014), Joseph Rice, 1920; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [20] : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales, citing General Register Office, Southport, England

• Image "Copy of Joseph Rice Birth Certificate" "Where and When Born." "Fathers Rank or Profession." [21]

• "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch [22] : 4 September 2014), Annie Rice, 1930; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [23] : 2012); citing Death, Bournemouth, Dorset, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

• Image "Copy of Marriage Certificate" "Residence." "Rank or Profession." [24]

• "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch [25] : 8 October 2014), John W Rice and null, 1934; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast [26] : 2012); citing 1934, quarter 2, vol. 2B, p. 1728, Bournemouth, Dorset, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch [27] : 13 December 2015), John Henry Rice, 1940; Burial, Dunkirk (Dunquerque), Departement du Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, Dunkirk Memorial; citing record ID 17071020, Find a Grave, [28]

• Image "Copy of Marriage Certificate" "Residence." [29]

• "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch.[30] : 8 October 2014), Joseph Rice and null, 1948; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast [31] : 2012); citing 1948, quarter 1, vol. 6B, p. 429, Bournemouth, Dorset, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch [32] : 4 September 2014), John W Rice, 1953; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [33] : 2012); citing Death, Bournemouth, Dorset, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch [34] : 4 September 2014), Agnes Rice, 1966; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast [35] : 2012); citing Death, Bournemouth, Dorset, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

• "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch ([36] : 31 December 2014), Mary Dymond, 1899; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast ([37] : 2012); citing Death, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

Footnotes

1. ↑ Source#s1 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
2. ↑ Source#s2
3. ↑ Source#s21 England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
4. ↑ Source#s3 England and Wales Census, 1901
5. ↑ Source#s4 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
6. ↑ Source#s5 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
7. ↑ Source#s6 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
8. ↑ Source#s7 England and Wales Census, 1911
9. ↑ Source#s8 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
10. ↑ Source#s9 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
11. ↑ Source#s10 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
12. ↑ Source#s11 England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
13. ↑ #s12 Joseph Rice Birth Certificate
14. ↑ Source#s13 England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
15. ↑ #s14 Copy of Marriage Certificate
16. ↑ Source#s15 England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
17. ↑ Source#s16 Find A Grave Index
18. ↑ Source#s17 Copy of Marriage Certificate
19. ↑ Source#s18 England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
20. ↑ Source#s19 England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
21. ↑ Source#s20 England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007