Patrick Michen Doran (1852 - 1932)

Born 5 Apr 1852 in Ardane, Templeneiry, County Tipperary, Ireland [uncertain]

Husband of Johanna (O'Dwyer) Doran — married 17 Jun 1875 in Bansha, County Tipperary, Ireland

Descendants

Died 3 Feb 1932 at age 79 in Blenheim, Marlborough, New Zealand

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Biography

Patrick Doran was born in Ireland.

Patrick Doran migrated from Ireland to New Zealand.

Patrick Doran lived in Blenheim, Marlborough, New Zealand.

Patrick was born about 1850-1852. ^[1] He was the son of Michael/Michen Doran and Nellie Sheehan, ^[2] of Ardane, Templeneiry (near Bansha), County Tipperary, Ireland. ^[3]

On 17 June 1875 at Bansha R.C. chapel, he married Johanna Dwyer of Curraghavoke, daughter of James Dwyer (farmer, deceased). Witnessed by Mary O'Dwyer and Patrick Cuishen(sp?) ^[3]

The couple emigrated to New Zealand shortly after marrying; their first child was born at Blenheim in October 1876.

He passed away 3 February 1932 age 80 at Wairau Hospital, Blenheim, and is buried at Omaka Cemetery. ^{[2] [4] [5]}

Research Notes

James Joseph Doran 1893-1918

Find A Grave: Memorial #12158858 is for "James Joseph Doran" son of this couple born 14 June 1875, dying 21 November 1917 in France, citing birth registration James Doran, 1875, Tipperary. This birth registration has parents Patrick Doran and Johanna Dwyer. However I am dubious about this because:

• This was before the parents of this profile married, but the birth registration gives the mother as married.
• The parents' townland on this birth registration is different to the parents' townlands on this profile's marriage 3 days later.
• These parents have another son James born 1878 in NZ (dies young) then 1882 NZ (dies young also), and it basically never happened to name a child the same name as a child still living.
• NZ death registration 1918/73996 Doran James Joseph 24Y (21 Nov 1917) suggests birth year 1893, not 1875.
• Archives New Zealand: R20997990 DORAN, James Joseph - WW1 44263 - Army born 1893, dies 21 Nov 1917 so must be the same person as this NZ death registration. However his registration details say: born in Hastings NZ; parents James from County Wexford, and Kathleen.

In light of this evidence, tt seems to me that:

• WW1 44263 is clearly not the son of Patrick Doran and Johanna (O')Dwyer.
• This 1875 birth registration is likely to be a different child with coincidentally same named parents -- I have seen many cases of this in Irish research over the years. Another possibility could be a pre-marital child to the same parents with a false declaration on the birth registration, and died young.

Sources

1. ↑ Age 80 on death registration suggests 1852; although the certificate also states married at age 25 and the marriage was in 1875.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Media NZ death certificate:
   • Patrick Doran, labourer, age 80.
   • Last residence: Robinson St, Blenheim.
   • Died 3 Feb 1932 at Wairau Hospital, Blenheim.
   • Born in County Tipperary; 54 years in NZ.
   • Parents: Michen Doran (farmer) + Nellie Sheehan.
   • Married at Bansha, Ireland at age 25 to Johanna O'Dwyer (cur age 80); issue: 51m, 49m, 42m, 55f, 45f, 40f.
   • Buried 5 Feb 1932 at Omaka Cemetery.
   • Cause of death: Morbus Cordis + Rheumatism, several years.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Patrick Doran, Johanna Dwyer, 1875, Tipperary at Irish Civil Registration - Marriages
4. ↑ NZ BDM Death search: 1932/2903 Doran Patrick 80Y
5. ↑ Find A Grave: Memorial #201657424 - New Catholic section, block 9 plot 10.

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