Lord John Joseph Elliss (1897 - 1979)

Born 26 Aug 1897 in Bromley, Kent, England, United Kingdom

Ancestors

Died 10 Aug 1979 at age 81 in Theale, Berkshire, England, United Kingdom

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Biography

Lord Elliss was born in Kent, England.

Lord Elliss is a Military Veteran.
Served in the British Army 1914-1918 during the Great War.

Early Years

Lord John Joseph Elliss was born on 26 August 1897, his birth registered between Oct-Dec 1897 at Bromley, Kent, England.^[1][2] He was the son of Thomas Elliss and Elizabeth Rebecca Halfpenny.

Lord was the twelfth of thirteen children born to Thomas and Elizabeth:

1. Thomas William Elliss, born 1876
2. George Ernest Elliss, born 1878
3. Albert Francis Elliss, born 1879
4. Elizabeth Rebecca Jane Elliss, born 1881
5. Harriet Rosina Matilda Elliss, born 1883
6. Amy Maude Esther Elliss. born 1884
7. Morris Frederick Elliss, born 1885
8. Edith Mabel Ada Elliss, born 1887
9. Benjamin James Elliss, born 1889
10. Louise Florence Isabella Elliss, born 1893
11. Sidney Herbert Elliss, born 1893
12. Lord John Joseph Elliss, born 1897
13. Phoebe Violet Elliss, born 1901

In the 1901 census of Bromley, Kent, Lord, aged 3, was living at Havelock Road with his father Thomas (46), mother Elizabeth (46), and siblings Thomas W (24), Albert F (22), Elizabeth R J (19), Harriet R M (18), Annie M E (16), Morris F (15), Edith M A (13), Benjamin J E (12), Louise F J (8), Sidney H (7), Lord J J (3), and Therese V (0).^[3]

In the 1911 census of Bromley, Kent, Lord was attending school, age 13, living with his father Thomas (57), mother Elizabeth (57), and siblings Amy (26), Morris (25), Edith (23), Benjamin (22), Louisa (19), and Phoebe (10).^[4]

Military Service

On 26 August 1914 Lord undertook a medical examination to determine his fitness for enlistment into the army for service in The Great War (WWI). This was the date of his 17th birthday. Records show that he declared himself to be 19 years old. His date of enlistment was 31 August 1914 when he was enlisted into the Royal Field Artillery. His Regiment Number: 16682.^[5] His age was then recorded as 19 years, 5 days. His occupation was given as Carman. The Short Service Attestation form was amended by hand, recording that his service was for 3 years with the Colours.^[6]

Key Dates of Lord's Military Service:

In 1937 Lord applied for a copy of his army discharge as he had lost the original, the copy needed to enable him to get government employment. At that time he was living at 5 Morams Cottages, Harvey Lane, Bromley, Kent.

After The Great War

In the 1921 census of Bromley, Kent, Lord was age 23, a Wood Machinist, and living at 22 Mosslea Road, Bromley Common, with his father Thomas (67), mother Elizabeth Rebecca (67), and siblings Benjamin James (32) and Phoebe Violet (23).^[9]

First Marriage

Lord J J Elliss married Doris E Ives, their marriage registered between Jul-Sep 1923 at Bromley, Kent.^[10]

Lord and Doris had two children:

1. Doris Louisa Elliss, born 1924
2. Daisy May Elliss, born 1930

Second Marriage

Lord J J Elliss married Florence E Andrews, their marriage registered between Jan-Mar 1944 at Hull, Yorkshire.^[11] There were no children from his second marriage.

In December 1953 Lord was employed as a cleaner with the UK Postal Service at Bromley & Beckenham, Kent.^[12]

Death

Lord died on 10 April 1979, aged 81, when he was living at 15 Elizabeth Court, Theale, Reading, Berkshire. His death was registered between Apr-Jun 1979 at Reading & Wokingham, Berkshire, with his birth date stated as 26 August 1897.^[2] His Probate recorded:

ELLISS, Lord John Joseph of 15 Elizabeth Court Theale

Reading Berkshire died 10 April 1979 Administration London

20 June [1979] £2099^[13]

Research Notes

No definitive birth or death records have been found for either of the recorded spouses. The names are not unique around the likely times and places for these individuals.

Sources

1. ↑ Birth "England & Wales General Register Office"
   GRO Online Index - Birth (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content : accessed 24 Nov 2022), database entry for ELLISS, LORD JOHN JOSEPH (Mother's maiden surname: HALFPENNY). GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in BROMLEY Volume 02A Page 432.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Death Registration "Death Entry"
   (https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=6uBYXTlQmKiFyX2zTGWusQ&scan=1 : accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden) FreeBMD database online. ELLIS, JOHN JOSEPH (LORD) (Birth Date 26AU1897), 1979 June Quarter, READING/WOK. Volume 19 Page 393.
3. ↑ 1901 Census "England and Wales Census, 1901"
   D, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9X1-947 : 20 May 2019), Lord J J Ellis in household of Thomas Ellis, Bromley, Kent, England, United Kingdom; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing Bromley subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey. Accessed 11 Sep 2022.
4. ↑ 1911 Census "England and Wales Census, 1911"
   Database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWDW-QLR : 8 July 2019), Lord Elliss in household of Thomas Elliss, Bromley, Kent, England, United Kingdom; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey. Accessed 11 Sep 2022.
5. ↑ Military Service "United Kingdom, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920"
   FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBL-TNB7 : Tue Oct 10 14:05:34 UTC 2023), Entry for Lord John Ellis, 1914. Accessed and entered on 11 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.
6. ↑ WWI War Service "UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920"
   Ancestry.com. UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920 [database on-line]. Lord John Ellis, Male, Enlistment Age 19, Birth Place Bromley, Kent, England, Military Date 1914, Relationship to Soldier Self (Head), Regimental Number 16682. Regiment Name Royal Field Artillery, Number of Images 12, Form Title Short Service Attestation. Ancestry Record 1219 #626320 Ancestry Sharing Link Citing: The National Archives; Kew, Surrey, England; War Office: Soldiers’ Documents, First World War Wo363. Accessed and entered on 11 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.
7. ↑ 1914-15 Star "UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920"
   Ancestry.com. UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 [database on-line]. Lord John Ellis, Military Year 1914-1915, Rank Driver, Unit Royal Field Artillery, Company WO 329, Regiment or Corps Royal Field Artillery, Regiment Number 16682, Medal Awarded 1914-1915 Star. Ancestry Record 5119 #2212000 Ancestry Sharing Link. Citing: The National Archives of the UK; Kew, Surrey, England; War Office and Air Ministry: Service Medal and Award Rolls, First World War. WO329; Ref: 2527. Accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.
8. ↑ Victory Medal "UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920"
   Ancestry.com. UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 [database on-line]. Lord John Ellis, Military Year, 1914-1920, Rank Driver, Unit Royal Field Artillery, Company WO 329, Regiment or Corps Royal Field Artillery, Regiment Number 16682, Medal Awarded British War Medal and Victory Medal. Ancestry Record 5119 #4654956 Ancestry Sharing Link. Citing: The National Archives of the UK; Kew, Surrey, England; War Office and Air Ministry: Service Medal and Award Rolls, First World War. WO329; Ref: 55. Accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.
9. ↑ 1921 Census "1921 Census Of England & Wales"
   FindmyPast Transcript - subscription needed, Lord John, Last name Elliss, Male, Birth year 1897, Census date 19 June 1921, Age in years 23, Age in months 10, Age as transcribed 23 y 10 m, Relationship to head Son, Single, Birth place Bromley, Kent, England, Occupation Wood Machinist, Occupation code 486, Occupation code with suffix 486/6, Employer code 410, Place of work Goodwin Lane, Old St, London, E C, Language used to complete form English, Person making return Ellis, Address 22 Mosslea Road, Parish Bromley, Registration district Bromley, Registration district number 42, Sub-district Bromley, Sub-district number 1, Enumeration district number 30, County Kent, Country England, Ward of borough or urban district Bromley Common, Parliamentary borough or division Bromley PB, Archive The National Archives, Archive series RG 15, Piece number 03803, Schedule number 311, District reference RD 42 RS 1 ED 30, Schedule type code E, Schedule type England household, single page, 10 entries, Other household member's first name(s) Benjamin James, Elizabeth Rebecca, Phoebe Violet, Thomas, Other household member's last name Elliss, Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales, Category Census, land & surveys, Subcategory Census, Collections from Great Britain, England. Accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.
10. ↑ First Marriage "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005"
    Database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZG-RZPB : 8 October 2014), Lord J J Elliss and null, 1923; from "England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing 1923, quarter 3, vol. 2A, p. 1503, Bromley, Kent, England, General Register Office, Southport, England. Accessed 11 September 2022.
11. ↑ Second Marriage "Marriage Entry"
    (https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=0H80uxWcM6qv%2BrYEDBUEoQ&scan=1 : accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden) FreeBMD database online. ELLISS Lord J. J. [and Florence E Andrews], Marriages 1944 Mar Quarter District: Hull Vol: 9d Page: 498
12. ↑ Postal Service appointment "UK, Postal Service Appointment Books, 1737-1969"
    Ancestry.com. UK, Postal Service Appointment Books, 1737-1969 [database on-line]. Lord J J Elliss, Appointment Date Dec 1953, Appointment Place Bromley: Beckenham, Industry Postal Service. Ancestry Record 1933 #1475748 Ancestry Sharing Link. Citing: The Postal Museum; Dublin, Ireland; Post Office: Staff Nomination and Appointment, 1831-1969; Series Number: Post 58; Reference: 216. Accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.
13. ↑ Probate"England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995"
    Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 [database on-line]. Lord John Joseph Elliss, Death Date 10 Apr 1979, Death Place, Theale Reading Berks, Probate Date 20 Jun 1979, Probate Registry London. Ancestry Record 1904 #23500002 Ancestry Sharing Link. Accessed and entered on 12 Feb 2024 by Keith Bowden.