Children of Gruffydd AP RHYS and Gwenlian VERCH GRUFFYDD OF GWYNEDD are:
Nest verch Gruffydd, born Bet. 1100 - 1130; married Ifor Bach ap Meurig Fychan.
Anarawd ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1110; died 1143 in Murdered. (Notes: Ruled Deheubarth 1136-1143.)
Cadell ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1115; died Abt. 1175. (Notes: Ruled Deheubarth 1143-1151, when he was seriously injured in battle and had to step down for his brother Maredudd ap Gruffydd.)
Maredudd ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1118; died 1155. (Notes: Rebuilt the old kingdom of Deheubarth which he rulled from 1151-1155.)
Rhys Ap Gruffydd Prince of Deheubarth, born 1120 in Dynevor Castle, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died May 04, 1196; married Gwenlian verch Madoc.
Gwenllian Verch Gruffudd, born 1136 in Dynevor Castle, Carmarthenshire, Wales; married Trahaearn ap Gwgon; born 1131 in Llan-gors, Breconshire, Wales.[1]
Thank you to everyone who has worked on this profile. WikiTree says she is my "22th great grandmother", so when I found her profile was an orphan, I adopted it. ~ Noland-165, 11 May 2020
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Someone I had a conversation with claimed Nest never existed, claiming Gwenllian only had 3 children (all sons). Load of rubbish - Gwenllian had 7 or 8 children, and was also stepmother to Gruffydd ap Rhys' two sons from his previous marriage
If these dates are correct, Nest was only 4 years old when she married (her husband was 20) and only 8 years old when her daughter, Gwenllian was born. Kind of stretches the imagination a little I think.
You are right it sounds ridiculous. But nobody can be sure what years Nest and her siblings were born. And I thought Nest only had one child, being Gruffudd ab Ifor Bach
1134 could have been a contract date. Children's profiles have birth in 1150. A 15-year gap between husband and wife in a first marriage is not unusual. Welsh women of the time were expected to have married and started a family by 15; Welsh men of the class of her husband would not marry until they inherited or otherwise acquired land - generally 25-35. See http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id22.html
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