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Adelisa (Tirel) des Marets (abt. 1080)

Adelisa (Alice) des Marets formerly Tirel aka de Tirel
Born about in Marets, Cambray, Francemap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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European Aristocracy
Alice Tirel was a member of the aristocracy in Europe.
The Birth Date is a rough estimate. See the text for details.
Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.

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Biography

Baldwin I, Lord des Marets, is mentioned among the nobles who took part in the Tournament of Anchin, in 1096, the original call-roll of which has been preserved. This tournament was preparatory to the First Crusade, and Baldwin took part in this crusade. His wife was Alice de Tyrel, sister of Allard de Tyrel, Lord of Poix, in the Land of Cambray, living at Cambray.[1]

Research Notes

Uncertain Existence

This profile is based on text published in the second edition of The Demarest Family [1] which was copied from the first edition.[2] The medieval section of the first edition was by Louis P. De Boer, and was a translation which did not acknowledge its Dutch source in H. J. Koenen's Het Geslacht De Marez.[3] Koenen stated that the medieval genealogy was presented as "geheel voor rekening van Le Carpentier en pater Le Vaillant, daar we niet in de gelegenheid zijn hun betrouwbaarheid te controleeren" (entirely as communicated by [Jean-Baptiste] Le Carpentier and Father Le Vaillant, because we are not in a position to check their reliability). However, Jean-Baptiste Carpentier is now known to have produced fraudulent genealogies with forged 'proofs' and nothing he wrote can be taken as evidence unless corroborated by independent, original sources (see Carpentier Frauds). Unless these are found, this profile should be regarded as of Uncertain Existence. Millard-1402 09:23, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Demarest, Voorhis David. The Demarest Family, 2nd edition. Demarest Family Association (Hackensack, New Jersey), Boston, Mass.: Arno Press, 1964. Pages xvii-xx.
  2. Demarest, Mary A., and William H. The Demarest Family : David des Marest of the French patent on the Hackensack and his descendants. New Brunswick, N.J.: Thatcher-Anderson, 1938. Pages 551-555.
  3. Koenen, H.J., Het Geslacht De Marez. Scheveningen, Netherlands: Heraldisch-Genealogisch Archief, 1901. Pages 22-31.

Acknowledgements

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