James Greenbery Welch (1819 - 1915)

Born 18 May 1819 in Alabama, United States

Ancestors

Husband of Martha Ann (Willis) Welch — married 8 Feb 1854 (to 21 Jul 1896) in Lawrence, Alabama

Descendants

Died 4 Sep 1915 at age 96 in Clarke, Mississippi, United States

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Biography

Research Notes

I adopted this profile and have neglected to do my due diligence in researching the information listed here. It has been brought to my attention that James may not be the son of John Young Welch as it is believed that Young was never in Alabama to have a son born there in 1819. Young was in Amite Co., Ms. from 1810 to 1820. He was in Marion Co., Ms. in 1830 and Simpson co., Ms. thereafter. He did have a son that is unaccounted for born about 1818.

Another researcher has pointed out that it may be more likely that he was a son of John Welch born about 1794, who married Frances Arnold on Feb. 12, 1815 Clarke Co., Al. John was probably a son of James Welch and Clarissa Morrell. [Thank you Christine!]

More research is certainly needed for this profile. The first glaring inconsistency is that the find-a-grave profile attached lists his wife as Martha Ann Wester instead of Willis.

Available census reports indicate he was born in Alabama between 1817-1825 and two also list that his parents were born in Alabama as well (see below):

1850 Census

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1854: Marriage

• James Welch: Alabama Marriages, 1816-1957
• Name: James Welch
• Event Type: Marriage
• Event Date: 8 Feb 1854
• Event Place: Lawrence, Alabama, United States
• Event Place (Original): Lawrence, Alabama, United States
• Sex: Male
• Spouse's Name: Martha J. Willis
• Spouse's Sex: Female
• Spouse's Father's Name: William F. Willis
  • Source^[1]
  • Note: other sources list a marriage date of February 7, 1854^[2]

1860 Census

• J G Welch: United States Census, 1860
• Name: J G Welch
• Event Type: Census
• Event Date: 1860
• Event Place: Jasper, Mississippi, United States
• Event Place (Original): , Jasper, Mississippi, United States
• Sex: Male
• Age: 35
• Race: White
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1825
• Birthplace: Alabama
• Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
• J G Welch Male 35 Alabama
• M A Welch Female 30 Alabama
• E G Welch Female 11 Alabama
• W J Welch Male 9 Alabama
• A C Welch Female 7 Alabama
• Sarah V Welch Female 5 Alabama
• I H Welch Male 2 Mississippi
• W B Thomas Male 22 Alabama
  • Source^[3]

1870 Census

• Green J Welch: United States Census, 1870
• Name: Green J Welch
• Event Type: Census
• Event Date: 1870
• Event Place: Beat 5, Jasper, Mississippi, United States
• Event Place (Original): South East Beat, Jasper, Mississippi, United States
• Sex: Male
• Age: 53
• Race: White
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1817
• Birthplace: Alabama
• Page Number: 19
• Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
• Green J Welch Male 53 Alabama
• Martha A Welch Female 45 Alabama
• Elizabeth J Welch Female 20 Alabama
• William B J Welch Male 19 Alabama
• Aramentha C Welch Female 17 Alabama
• Sarah A ? Welch Female 15 Alabama
• Gilbert S Welch Male 10 Mississippi
• Ge*berry Welch Male 7 Mississippi
• George W Welch Male 4 Mississippi
• Mary M Welch Female 1 Mississippi
• Otis C Thompson Male 55 New York
  • Source^[4]

1880 Census

• James G. Welch: United States Census, 1880
• Name: James G. Welch
• Event Type: Census
• Event Date: 1880
• Event Place: Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi, United States
• Event Place (Original): Shubuta, ED 114, Clarke, MS, United States
• Sex: Male
• Age: 55
• Marital Status: Married
• Race: White
• Race (Original): W
• Occupation: Farmer
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1825
• Birthplace: Alabama, United States
• Father's Birthplace: Alabama, United States
• Mother's Birthplace: Alabama, United States
• Relationship to Head of Household: Self
• Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self
• Sheet Letter: C
• Sheet Number: 57
• Person Number: 0
• Volume: 2
• Affiliate Line Number: 00028
• Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
• James G. Welch Self Male 55 Alabama, United States
• Martha A. Welch Wife Female 52 Alabama, United States
• Jane E. Welch Daughter Female 28 Alabama, United States
• Gilbert Welch Son Male 19 Alabama, United States
• Greenbury Welch Son Male 16 Mississippi, United States
• George W. Welch Son Male 13 Mississippi, United States
• Mary M. Welch Daughter Female 10 Mississippi, United States
• Emmer N. Welch Daughter Female 8 Mississippi, United States
  • Source^[5]

1900 Census

• James G Welch: United States Census, 1900
• Name: James G Welch
• Event Type: Census
• Event Date: 1900
• Event Year: 1900
• Event Place: Beat 2 Shubuta Shubuta town, Clarke, Mississippi, United States
• Event Place (Original): ED 4 Beat 2 Shubuta Shubuta town, Clarke, Mississippi, United States
• Sex: Male
• Age: 76
• Marital Status: Widowed
• Race: White
• Race (Original): W
• Birth Date: May 1824
• Birthplace: Ala
• Father's Birthplace: Ala
• Mother's Birthplace: Ala
• Relationship to Head of Household: Head
• Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
• Sheet Letter: A
• Sheet Number: 2
• Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
• James G Welch Head Male 76 Ala
• Elizabeth J Vann Daughter Female 51 Ala
• Birgie Vann Nephew Male 17 Miss
• Gilbert S Welch Son Male 42 Miss
• Henry Cochran Boarder Male 53 Miss
  • Source^[6]

1910 Census

• J Green Welch: United States Census, 1910
• Name: J Green Welch
• Event Type: Census
• Event Date: 1910
• Event Place: Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi, United States
• Event Place (Original): Shubuta, , Mississippi
• Sex: Male
• Age: 85
• Marital Status: Widowed
• Race: White
• Race (Original): White
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1825
• Birthplace: Alabama
• Father's Birthplace: United States
• Mother's Birthplace: United States
• Relationship to Head of Household: Father
• Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Father
• Sheet Letter: B
• Sheet Number: 26
• Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
• C Green Welch Head Male 45 Mississippi
• Caroline L Welch Wife Female 38 Mississippi
• John W Welch Son Male 18 Mississippi
• Quint L Welch Son Male 17 Mississippi
• Clara J Welch Daughter Female 14 Mississippi
• Nellie V Welch Daughter Female 11 Mississippi
• Thomas E Welch Son Male 8 Mississippi
• Barney B Welch Son Male 5 Mississippi
• Mary L Welch Daughter Female 1 Mississippi
• J Green Welch Father Male 85 Alabama
  • Source^[7]

• Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
• Name: Eliza Jane Pettey
• Event Type: Death
• Event Date: 13 Jun 1946
• Event Place: Crockett, Houston, Texas, United States
• Sex: Female
• Age: 85
• Marital Status: Widowed
• Birth Date: 10 Jan 1861
• Birth Year (Estimated): 1861
• Birthplace: Joaquin, Texas
• Father's Name: James Welch
• Mother's Name: Martha Willis
• Record Number: 27677
  • Source^[8]
  • Note: birthplace listed as Texas, they did have a daughter Elizabeth J - born in Alabama

Research Prior to Adoption

James G. Welch, 1825, AL^{[9][10][11][12]}

Martha A. Welch, 1828, AL^[9][10][11]

1. Elizabeth G/J Welch, 1850, AL^[9][10] Elizabeth Welch Vann, widowed in 1900.^[12]
2. William B J Welch, 1851, AL^[9][10]
3. Jane E. Welch, 1852, AL^[11] Did Elizabeth fudged her age by two years in 1880? amb 17:04, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
4. Arameretha C Welch, 1853, AL^[9][10]
5. Sarah A V Welch, 1855, AL^[9][10]
6. I. H. Welch, 1858, MS^[9]
7. Gilbert Welch, 1861, AL^[10][11][12]
8. Greenbury Welch, 1864, MS^[10][11]
9. George W. Welch, 1867, MS^[10][11]
10. Mary M. Welch, 1870, MS^[10][11]
11. Emmer N. Welch, 1872, MS^[11]

Burial: Pleasant Grove Baptist Church Cemetery

Place: Clarke, Mississippi

Find A Grave: Memorial #87240155

Sources

1. ↑ "Alabama Marriages, 1816-1957", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5ZW-6FS : 13 February 2020), [name withheld by request], 1854.
2. ↑ "Alabama County Marriages, 1809-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2DQ-1M59 : 19 February 2021), James Welch and Martha Willis, 07 Feb 1854; citing Alabama, United States, County Probate Courts, Alabama; FHL microfilm 1,034,494.
3. ↑ "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6GD-7D4 : 18 February 2021), J G Welch, 1860.
4. ↑ "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF3D-3DH : 29 May 2021), Green J Welch, 1870.
5. ↑ "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4GQ-CGM : 14 January 2022), James G. Welch, Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi, United States; citing enumeration district , sheet , NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm .
6. ↑ "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M96N-2QG : accessed 31 December 2022), James G Welch, Beat 2 Shubuta Shubuta town, Clarke, Mississippi, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 4, sheet 2A, family 20, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,804.
7. ↑ "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MP83-6PM : accessed 31 December 2022), J Green Welch in household of C Green Welch, Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 3, sheet 26B, family 287, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 736; FHL microfilm 1,374,749.
8. ↑ "Texas Deaths, 1890-1976," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3S7-DBV : 20 February 2021), James Welch in entry for Eliza Jane Pettey, 13 Jun 1946; citing certificate number 27677, State Registrar Office, Austin; FHL microfilm 2,218,377.
9. ↑ ^{9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6} 1860 United States Federal Census; Census Place: Jasper, Mississippi; Roll: M653_583; Page: 447; Family History Library Film: 803583. amb 13 September 2018
10. ↑ ^{10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 10.9} 1870 United States Federal Census; Census Place: South East Beat, Jasper, Mississippi; Roll: M593_732; Page: 581B; Family History Library Film: 552231. Bairfield-1 13 September 2018
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5 11.6 11.7} 1880 United States Federal Census; Census Place: Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi
12. ↑ ^{12.0 12.1 12.2} Widowed: 1900 United States Federal Census; Census Place: Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi; Page: 2; Enumeration District: 0004; FHL microfilm: 1240804. amb 13 September 2018

• Married: 1870; Census Place: South East Beat, Jasper, Mississippi; Roll: M593_732; Page: 581B; Family History Library Film: 552231. Bairfield-1 16:47, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
• Married: 1880 United States Federal Census; Census Place: Shubuta, Clarke, Mississippi; Roll: 644; Page: 57C; Enumeration District: 114. amb 16:39, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
• Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 07 September 2018; amb), memorial page for James Greenberry Welch (18 May 1819–20 Sep 1915), Find A Grave: Memorial #87240155, citing Pleasant Grove Baptist Church Cemetery, Clarke County, Mississippi, USA ; Maintained by Robert Bryant Jarman, Sr. (contributor 46988924) .

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Michelle Bairfield for creating WikiTree profile Welch-1981 through the import of 2013-10-05 ten generation Gavin.ged on Oct 5, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Michelle and others.

DNA Confirmations

all matches weaker than 7 cM and further than 3rd cousin are to be considered as supporting evidence, not proof of relationship

Further segment details at Kent Creamer, bottom of page

• Paternal relationship is confirmed by:
  • a weak 5.2 cM match between Kent Creamer GEDmatch M521133 and his 6th cousin Keith Clifford GEDmatch A317582 (Total of 1 matching segment > 5, Largest segment = 5.2 cM on Chr 17). Common ancestors: David Welch Jr. (1741-abt.1803) & Hannah Catherine (Lowrance) Welch (1740-1815).