Richard Morgan's father and brother in Wales 1600's?

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I think Richard Morgan's father is also a Richard (b.1606 in Wales) and had 3 brothers, including Thomas Morgan (b. 1626 in Wales) who at some point around 1649 - 1650, changed his name to Carrier and fled to America. I'm still looking into this, but if anyone has any more info, I would appreciate it!

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Anita
WikiTree profile: Richard Morgan
in Genealogy Help by Anita Mussatto G2G Crew (410 points)
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Massachusetts, Town Death Records, 1620-1850

Name: Thomas "alias Carrier Morgan
Death Date: May 16, 1735
Burial Place: Billerica
Source: Billerica
Source Information:
New England Historic Genealogical Society. Massachusetts Town Death Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999.
by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (700k points)

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Thomas Carrier
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1641
Baptism Place: Dean Prior,Devon,England
Father: Richard Carrier
FHL Film Number: 917195
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Carrier
Thomas Carrier
Source Information:
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Ancestry.com. England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original Data: England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
References
  1.  The Allen Line, in Holman, Mary Lovering. Ancestry of Charles Stinson Pillsbury and John Sargent Pillsbury. (Concord, New Hampshire: Privately Printed at The Rumford Press, 1938)
    2:1015.

    "He is called 'Thomas Carrier alias Morgan' and 'Thomas Morgan alias Carrier' in different records. Although he had been gone from Billerica for many years and died in Colchester, Conn., his death is on the Billerica records and he is credited with being one hundred and nine years old, which is probably much exaggerated although undoubtedly he was a very old man."

  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Thomas Carrier, in Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New EnglandShowing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692, on the Basis of Farmer's Register. (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co, 1860-1862)
    1:339.

    "Thomas (Carrier), Billerica, came, perhaps, from Wales, m. 7 May 1664 [error for 1674], Martha Allen, when his name in rec. of B. is writ. Morgan, alias Carrier, had sev. ch. of wh. Thomas, the preced. and Sarah, b. a. 1685, were witness. in the unnatur. proceed. that end. in the execut. of their mo. 19 Aug. 1692. He had rem. to Andover short. bef. and in few yrs. after went to Colchester, there live more than 20 yrs. and d. 16 May 1735, said in N. E. Weekly Journ. soon after, to be 109 yrs. old; and exaggera. in this case may not be more than ten or fifteen yrs. The contempo. tells, that he was not gray, nor bald, walk. erect. and short. bef. his d. went six ms. on loot, left 5 ch. 39 gr.ch. and 38 gr. gr.ch. But it was not much less than forty-three yrs. from the judic. murder of his w."

  3.  Colchester Vital Records [NEHGS], in Connecticut, United States. The Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records
    34.

    "Carrier, … Thomas, d. May 16, 1735, Æ about 108 or 109 y. [L-3:454]"

  4.  Foster, F. Apthorp (ed.). Vital Records of Billerica, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850. (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1908)
    379.

    "Morgan, Thomas 'alias Carrier,' [died] May 16, 1735, a. 109, in Colchester, Conn."

There are many colorful stories surrounding Thomas Carrier alias Morgan. Hazen's Notes on Thomas Carrier says he was extremely tall, muscular and strong. The Ancestry of Philip Joseph Currier says he was 7-foot-4. The most intriguing story is from Hazen, that he or his father might have been the executioner of King Charles I (30 Jan 1649). If the report of his age at death are near accurate (108 or 109 according to Colchester town records), he would have been 23.
Thomas Carrier came to America about 1655, first probably to Cambridge then to Billerica, Massachusetts.
There are different theories as to the reason for the alias. The Ancestry of Philip Joseph Currier explains that in Wales "it was customary for sons to carry on the surname of both parents, to wit: Morgan ap Carrier [--] ap being a prefix signifying 'son of.' " Hazen's Notes on Thomas Carrier suggests that a Welshman is popularly called Morgan or that men "coming out of England in those troubled years usually found an assumed name easier to use in arranging leave, and could not get passage in their own names in their politics were wrong."
After the hanging of his wife for witchcraft in 1692, Thomas Carrier made frequent petitions for the reversal of the witchcraft conviction. The judgments were finally reversed and damaged paid in 1711.



 

He claimed to be over a hundred years old, but that has since been disputed, particularly as he was tried for various nefarious con games against fellow his townsmen, as well as witchcraft
Several sources have his mother as Thankful Morgan
+3 votes
To my knowledge there are no primary sources connecting Richard of Exeter with any of the other Morgan families.  Several secondary sources have him linked to various Welsh families, however, to date, I haven't seen any primary source to back up these claims.  If you find one be sure to post it!  Good Luck!
by Jeffrey Martin G2G4 (4.9k points)
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The profile simply says pace of birth - Wales. Do you have any further source material for that or is his Welsh connection more clouds to fog his past?
by Steve Bartlett G2G6 Mach 7 (78.0k points)

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