Pre-1500 incorrect data particularly ancestor, Nicholas Dabridgecourt and birth death dates.or with this profile

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Dabridgecourt-6 needs some TLC. Dabridgecourt-7, Nicholas Dabridgecourt wasn't his father and the birth and death dates are erroneous I think. His father was Thomas Dabridgecourt, who died in 9 Nov 1466 (I think).  There doesn't seem to be a profile for his father.  How could he have been born in 1476 which is after his father died?  There may be a mistake on the pedigree or I'm not reading it right.  Pls. see also Dabridgecourt-2, his son John Dabridgecourt birth and death dates:

Pls see:  source, https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/9/90/Forster-1270.pdf (Pedigree of Dabridgecourt of Strathfield Saye)

The birth and death dates need checking.

Pls see
WikiTree profile: Thomas Dabridgecourt
in Genealogy Help by Anna Strutt G2G6 Mach 1 (14.0k points)
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If no one has any objections, I'm going to rebuild this line, based on the VCH supplemented with Common Pleas, Soldiers database, etc. As it stands now there are two missing generations. Sir Nicholas was active in the the 1380s and 90s and died in 1400. 

The line goes Nicholas, John, John, Thomas, Thomas. This will take a few days to collect info.
 

by Living Mead G2G6 Mach 7 (73.2k points)
selected by Anna Strutt
I have taken this line back to Sir Nicholas Dabridgecourt, 1350-1400. Main source is IPMs, with input from Common Pleas, Soldiers Database, and VCH, which has info from IPMs not available online.
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The pedigree seems to follow the Visitation of Hampshire, where the Thomas who married Alice Delamare was the son of Sir Nicholas (if I'm reading the broken lines correctly.)

https://archive.org/details/pedigreesfromvis64beno/page/42/mode/2up?view=theater

These visitations are often wrong. I looked for some original sources but there are a thousand ways to spell Dawbrichescorte.
by Living Mead G2G6 Mach 7 (73.2k points)

The Victoria County History goes Nicholas, John, John, Thomas, Thomas. This probably is the most reliable. (I see it agrees with your chart).

Sir Nicholas Dabridgecourt died 1400.
Then to his son Sir John Dabridgecourt, who died 1418
Leaving son and heir John, who married Agnes Bekingham in 1428 and died 1431
Leaving an infant son Thomas, who died in 1466. Agnes Bekingham died 1470.
Her heir was grandson Thomas (whose father had died 1466), who died 1495.

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp57-63

If I understand correctly this visitation publication is one which combines several, and that makes it hard to work out which bits are from original family reports. Probably there are also some modern guesses stuck in there. However, if you could find a summary of the 1530 visitation, and if it has something for this family, then this would be interesting because I think these visitations are always best when we are mainly using them for 2 or 3 generations back from the reporting generation.
That's a confusing pedigree because there is also a line going way up to Sir Thomas Dabridgecourt and several generations inbetween.  I don't know what to make of those double line connections to the children of Nicholas Dabridgecourt.
This looks more likely that thomas grandson was the grandson b. 1476 (15 Edw IV)  d. 1495 because if he was the grandson then he could be born after his grandfather died in 1466.

You might already have realised but the 'Pedigree of Dabridgecourt of Stratfield Say' which is from The Topographer and Genealogist, vol 1, actually has 7 pages of notes, that haven't been included in the Forster-1270 pdf attached to the original question.

The whole article can be found here 

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