Johannes Carstens
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Johannes Hermann Carstens (abt. 1674 - 1727)

Johannes Hermann (Johannes) "Jan Hars, Hermanus" Carstens
Born about in Husum, Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorf, Danmarkmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 2 Mar 1710 in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 53 in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
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Biography

Name

Johannes Hermanus Carstens [1] / Johannes Hermann Carstens [2][3][4] / Jan Carstensz[5]

Birth

Johannes Hermann / Johannes Hermanus Carstens was born about 1674. [1][2][3]
Place: Husum, Schleswig-Holstein, Jutland, [Duitsland] [1] / Husum, [Duitsland] [3] / Husum, [Germany] [2]

Immigration

According to the ship's ledger accounts Hans Carstensz van Hoesum was a bosschieter on the Driebergen. The ship departed from Texel, Netherlands on 10 May 1705 and arraived at teh Cape in November 1705. [6]
He disembarked at the Cape on 9 November 1705, became a burger in 1710 and passed away on 26 February 1727. [6]
"In't schip Driebergen 1705 voor Amsterd:m
Hans Carstensz van Hoesum, boss:r...
7e 9ber / ... zedert den 10 Maij dat zijn uijtgezijlt tot den 9 9ber dat aan de Caab in't hospitaal blijft ...
... 1710 aande Caap tot burger aangestelt ...
1727, 26 Febry: getesteert hebbende overleden, blyvende sijn wed:e en kinderen ... [6]

Marriage

Date: 2 March 1710 [5]
Place: [Cape Town], de Caep de Goede Hoop, Dutch Cape Colony [South Africa][5]
Groom: Jan Carstensz (van Hoesum) [5]
Bride: Catharina van As [7][5]
d:o (2 March): Jan Carstensz van Hoesum, jongm: met Catharina van As, van de Cabo, jonge d:r [7]

Will

They drew up their will on 18 February 1727 and it was presnted at the Orphan Chamber on 7 April 1727. [8]
"... den agthiende dagh der maand Februarij ... Een duijsent seven hondert seven en twintigh ...
... verscheenen zijn, Johannes Carstensz van Hoesem in Holsteijn, oud drie en vijftigh jaren, landbouwer alhier en Catharina van As van Cabo de Goede Hoop oud omtrent dertigh jaren, egte luijden ...
... den testateur ziekelijk t bedde leggende ...
... aldus passeerde aan de Paarl op de hofsteede van de testateuren gen:t de Paarl Diamant ..." [8]
"Verthoont ter Weeskamer aan Cabo de Goede Hoop den 7e April 1727." [8]

Death

Johannes Hermann Carstens passed away about 1727. [1][2][3] / on 26 February 1727. [6]


Jan Carstensz van Oldenburgh

Date: Jul 1658[9]
Jan Carstensz van Oldenburgh hier te lande gecomen met 't schip Prins Willem in Julij ao. 1658 voor bootsman a 10 gl. per maent, welcke zedert dien tijt in Comps. groote beeste ende schapestal ende 't crael hier aen 't fort gebruijckt, ende in 't suijveren ende stroijen &a. van de gemelte stallen, ende opgaderen van de mest voor thuijnen, landt &a. seer wel opgepast, ende volgens dien goet genoegen gegeven heeft, wort dierhalven ende vermits sijn tijt in Junij verleden al g'expireert is op sijn versoeck ende vereijschte bequaemheijt tot bovenstaende saken de novo voor noch drie jaeren weder aengenomen als bossr. onder een beloninge van derthien guldens per maent, de gagie heden ende verbant Febr. toecomende tegen de comste van d' aenstaende retourvboot ingaende. [9]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 WikiTree profile Carstens-53 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Arrie Klopper.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 WikiTree profile Carstens-102 created by Pieter Meyer, May 22, 2013.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 WikiTree profile Carstens-58 created through the import of Ancestors_DippenaarAndre_noinfo.GED on Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar.
  4. De Villiers, Christoffel Coetzee, Oude Kaapsche Familien - A-J. Page No. 143. Added by Esmé van der Westhuizen, 1 June 2015.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 Source : Seen & added 08 January 2021 by André Laubscher.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 Source:
  7. 7.0 7.1 Source :
    • The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical record transcriptions (http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/ : accessed 2 Feb 2014), Cape Town Marriages 1710, Page 107; citing Cape Archives Verbatim Copies VC 603, Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk - marriage register 1665 - 1695. Original registers are located in the NG Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch as G1 1/1,
    Seen & added 08 January 2021 by André Laubscher
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 Source:
  9. 9.0 9.1 Source:




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Message received from Kevin Smith :

I am Smith-262312 and Johannes Hermann Karstens is my 7th Great Grandfather.

I'm researching and am registered on several other Ancestry websites.

I have picked up information on this site: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/about/G7GX-MD5 that the parents of Johannes Hermann and his wife (Catherina Van As), are as follows?

Casper Carstens, Male (Prussia), about 1650 – Deceased, G7GX-MD5

Gundel Johanses Oluffson, Female (Danish), 1655 – 10 June 1730, GXBV-PWY

Gundel Johanses Oluffson (above) Parents as shown below

Joen Olluffsson, Male (Danish), about 1630 – Deceased, MVZC-GJQ

Sidtzel Nielsdr, Female (Danish), about 1635 – Deceased, GXBV-B3X

They were married : 09 JAN 1653, Frue Kirke Or Vor Frue Kirke,Kobenhavn,Kobenhavn,Denmark. Standardized Data, 9 January 1653, Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark

Not sure if you have checked / considered but thought I'd let you know?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPFG-29YV

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPK8-68Y4

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPXN-DG2W

Hopefully this assists and is helpful.

posted by André Laubscher
He could not have arrived in 1658 he was not born yet
posted by Gerhard Groenewald
Death occurred between 18 February 1727 and 7 April 1727.

Will dated 18 Feb 1727 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-J9XK-7) has a note at the end stating "Verthoont ter Weeskamer aan Cabo de Goedehoop den 7e April 1727" (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-J9XY-N).

posted by Michael Giblot Ducray
Johannes Hermann Carstens is my husband's 6th great grandfather.

All profiles researched and sourced. See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carstens-336 haplogroup R-M269

posted by Charmaine Labuschagne
Carstens-58 and Carstens-53 appear to represent the same person because: Same dates. Same spouse which needs to be merged as well
Carstens-102 and Carstens-53 appear to represent the same person because: Same data (date of birth, spouse etc.)
posted by Philip van der Walt