Claas
(Claes)
"Meutelaer"
van Schouwen
formerly Corneliss aka Meutelear, Cornelis, Corneliszen, van Schouw, Rademaaker, Neutelaer
Born in Brouwershaven, Schouwen Duiveland, Zeeland, Nederland
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Metje Herperts
— married
21 Mar 1632 in Sloterdijk, Noord-Holland, Nederland
Descendants 
Father of
Tryntje Claes, Herpert Claesz, Geertje Claes, Pietertje (Klaassen) Klaas, Cornelis Claesen Van Schouwen, Floris Claesen Van Schouwen, Gerbrant (Claese) Claesen, Ariaen Claesen Van Schouwen and Willem (Claasz) Clawson Sr
Died
at about age 67
in Province of New York
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Biography
- Claes Corneliss was born about 1607 in Brouwershaven, Schouwen, Zeeland, Netherlands (now called Schouwen Duiveland) , Claes married Metje Herperts on March 21, 1632 in Sloterdijck (near Amsterdam) Noord Holland, Netherlands. At the time of the marriage he was 25 and living at the Brouwersgracht, and Metje was 20, born in Amsterdam, the daughter of Pietertje Jacobs and Herpert Jansz.
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| Amsterdam inschrijvingsdatum: 31-01-1632 naam bruidegom: Corneliss, Claas naam bruid: Harperts, Metje [1] |
- They had at least two children baptized in Amsterdam:
- They emigrated to the New Netherland and had more children:
- Geertje (Grietje ?) Claes, she married Hendrick Volckertszen.
- Child Pieter(t)je ( probably named Pietertje , after maternal grandmother) Claes was baptised October 28, 1640 in the Manhattan Dutch Reformed Church., she married Symon Jansz (Van Arsdalen)
Birth
- 12 Feb 1606 Island of Schouwen, Brouwershaven, Zeeland
- 1607 Brouwershaven , Schouwen-Duiveland, Zeeland, Netherlands[4]
Children
Arrival
- 1640 New York, New York[5]
Death
- 1674 (Flatlands) Place: New York, (United States)USA[6]
Church Records
- 1640 Oct 28 Pietertje - Claes Cornelis. Witnesses: Jeurgie Hendrickszen, Hester Simons. [7]
- 1643 Oct 04 Cornelis - Claes Cornelis. Witnesses: Claes Claeszen, Hester Gerrits. [8]
- 1647 Jan 20 Floris - Claes Corneliszen. Witnesses: Hendrick Pieterszen, Jan Theuniszen Schaij. Joris Jacobszen, marritje Lievens, Sara Cornelis. [9]
- 1649 Apr 04 Gerbrant - Claes Neutelaer. Witnesses: Aeltje Cornelis. [10]
- 1651 Nov 05 Ariaen - Claes Corneliszen. Witnesses: Joris Jacobszen, Adriaentie Trommels. [11]
Research notes
- The Van Schouw Y-DNA Project can be found at https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/van-schouw/about
- See the following email regarding Claes not being the father of Pieter:
Dear Mr. Godfrey,
The Wyckoff family connection has been disproven by both the historical record and DNA.
See: Rootsweb B.Stevens
Notes : See Hoppin, op. cit. Claes has no relationship with the Wyckoff family. Sometimes found with the surname Meutelaer, which translates as "grumbler, whiner, complainer," and which was sometimes applied to the Dutch Sea Beggars, a group of freebooters from well before Claes' time. It is possible that Claes' father or grandfather was a Sea Beggar;
it is also possible that Claes grumbled about the poor quality of the land he inhabited in New Netherland, on what was then known as Meutelaer's Island, later called Bergen's Island.
On May 5, 1640, Claes stated his age as 35 years. In 1664, he stated that he was aged 67 years, which would make his birth in 1597. We may suppose that his memory was sharper in 1640, but no proof has been discovered to support either date as certain.
Metje Herberts (Harpentse) is a likely possibility for Claes' wife.
See Dutch-Colonies Digest Volume 99, Issue # 159 (1999), for discussion between D. Koenig, B. Stevens and C. Vanorsdale
Best wishes,
Martin Peterson, 8G grandson of Claes Cornelissen
- Note H115: There was no marriage with Margaret van der Goes, daughter of Martyn van Der Goes and Margaretha Tijsen 9 Nov 1623 at Middleburg, Holland
- Also known as Claes van Schouw - This file shows the name Claes Cornelissen, the Conover file shows Claes Cornelissen van Schouw
- b. 03 Apr 1597, Boda, Isle of Oland, Holland, The Netherlands or Island of Schouwen, Eastern Scheldt
Sources
- ↑
- Source: bronverwijzing: DTB 438, p.222 opmerkingen: Int. Marriage 31 January, 1632 Amsterdam Huwelijksintekeningen van de KERK. Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Ondertrouwregister: NL-SAA-26330870
- Source: "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-31158-17926-32?cc=2037985 : accessed 26 May 2016), Nederlands Hervormde > Amsterdam > Huwelijksaangiften, Trouwen 1630-1632 > image 406 of 602; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague).
- ↑ kind: Trijntje doopdatum: 12-06-1633
kerk: Nieuwe Kerk godsdienst: Hervormd
vader: Cornelisz, Claes
moeder: Hermans, Metje- Source: Stadsarchief Amsterdam: bronverwijzing: DTB 41, p.255 Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Doopregister: NL-SAA-24623407 Baptism Tryntje Claes 12-06-1633
- Source: Scan baptism Tryntje Claes 12-06-1633 Familysearch : "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-31148-6888-46?cc=2037985 : accessed 26 May 2016), Nederlands Hervormde > Amsterdam > Dopen 1628-1646 > image 131 of 492; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague).
- ↑ kind: Herpert doopdatum: 14-08-1635
kerk: Nieuwe Kerk godsdienst: Hervormd
vader: Cornelisz, Claes
moeder: Hermans, Metje- Source: Stadsarchief Amsterdam: bronverwijzing: DTB 41, p.394 Doopregister: NL-SAA-24641968 baptism Herpert Claes 14-08-1635
- Source: Scan Baptism Herpert 14-08-1635 Familysearch: "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-31148-6904-87?cc=2037985 : accessed 26 May 2016), Nederlands Hervormde > Amsterdam > Dopen 1628-1646 > image 201 of 492; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague).
- ↑ Marriage record
- ↑ Source: #S94 Page: Place: New York, New York; Year: 1640; Page Number: . Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1605 Birth place: Arrival date: 1640 Arrival place: New York, New York NOTEhttp://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&h=1864059&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
- ↑ : Source: #S-434364086: Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=millind&h=10098638&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Text: Birth date: 1611Birth place: HollandDeath date: 1674Death place: APID: 7249::10098638
- ↑ Collections NY Gen. & Biog. Soc.: 1901, Vol. 2, Page 11
- ↑ Collections NY Gen. & Biog. Soc.: 1901, Vol. 2, Page 16
- ↑ Collections NY Gen. & Biog. Soc.: 1901, Vol. 2, Page 21
- ↑ Collections NY Gen. & Biog. Soc.: 1901, Vol. 2, Page 25
- ↑ Collections NY Gen. & Biog. Soc.: 1901, Vol. 2, Page 30
- Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society (New York)
- Wardell, Patricia A. Early Bergen County Families. File:BCFam-Cornelison.pdf. "Cornelison: Cornelis, Claes (Claes Cornelis Van Schouw ("Meutelaer = grumbler, mmutterer) (Claes Rademaaker = Claes the Wheelmaker) (Meutelaer= grumbler or mutterer; it was used in reference to the Dutch Sea Beggars back in Holland)". Accessed 27 Jan 2017. http://njgsbc.org/indexes/bergen-county-families/
- Ancestry Family Trees. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/7179083/person/-600736149/facts and https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/9639887/person/545602227/facts
- Hoffman, William J. "Claes Cornelissen Van Schouw(en), Meutelaar and the Wyckoff Ancestry." The American Genealogist, Vol. 22 (1945), pages 65-71.
- Keskachauge, or, The first white settlement on Long Island: Author: Ancestry.com. Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data - Van Wyck, Frederick,. Keskachauge, or, The first white settlement on Long Island. New York: Putnam's :|||The Knickerbocker Press, 1924.
- U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900: Author: Yates Publishing. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.
- Ancestry Family Trees: Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Text:
- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s: Author: Gale Research: Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2009.
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Ancestral File. Ancestral File Number: 8K3B-GJ
- O'Bryan extended Family tree.FTW. Change Date: 31 AUG 2004
- Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
- Gale Research Title: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2010.
- Stiles, Henry R. A History of the City of Brooklyn (Brooklyn, N.Y., 1869) Vol. 1, Page 73
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Ancestral File Number: W7LG-4V
Acknowledgments
- This person was created through the import of Smith-Hunter.ged on 10 March 2011.
- This person was created through the import of Newman Family Tree.ged on 12 March 2011.
- WikiTree profile Cornelissen-23 created through the import of Godfrey non-living.ged on Jun 14, 2011 by Jim Godfrey.
- WikiTree profile Van Schouwen-8 created through the import of O'Bryan Family tree.ged on Sep 6, 2011 by Tim Tropeck.
- This person was created through the import of small2.ged on 30 November 2010
- This person was created through the import of grant2.ged on 07 February 2011.
- WikiTree profile Van Schouwen Wyckoff-1 created through the import of Ancestor's that we lost, the Decendants they left behind_2011-08-28_01 (2).ged on Sep 12, 2011 by Willette Bryant.
- Thank you to Heath Vogel for creating WikiTree profile Van Schouwen-12 through the import of Vogel Wiki Upload.ged on Jan 22, 2013.
- probably from this online genealogy Claes van Schouwen (geni)
- Wilfred Vasile, firsthand knowledge. Click the Changes tab for the details of edits by Wilfred and others.
- Thank you to Jim Bowers for creating WikiTree profile VanSchouwen-3 through the import of Bowers Family Tree.ged on Jul 7, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Jim and others.
- This person was created on 22 September 2010 through the import of PittsPenn_2010-09-21.ged.
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This page says "No known carriers of Claes's Y-chromosome" have taken DNA tests, but that is not correct. Under the VanSchouw surname project (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/van-schouw/about/background), 15 matches have been confirmed, from the American Clawson, Garrabrant and Peterson families. That Y-DNA project is alluded to in the first 'Research note' on this page, but there's a Very Important point that should be added: Multiple men with the surname Peterson are confirmed via Y-DNA as male-line descendants of Claes Cornelissen van Schouw, but they are Not descendants of his once-hypothetized son, Pieter (Wyckoff); they are descendants of Pieter Gerbrantse, who was the grandson of Claes Cornelissen via his son Gerbrant.
How might a link to the Van Schouw project be added to this page? I'm new to Wikitree, and don't know how to do it, or if I even have the authority to.
Chris
Also, because autosomal tests are only really useful for confirming relatively close/recent cousins, those test takers won't show on these older profiles. Only yDNA and mtDNA test takers show up this far back. For example, I'm a possible descendant, but since I'm neither a yDNA descendant of Claas or an mtDNA descendant of his mother, my test doesn't show on his page. You have to go down to his (possible) great great grandson, Nicasius Van Wicklen, before you'll see me in that section.
If the test taker is not on Wikitree or you don't have permission to add their test information, then the DNA study can still be used as a source, which is what has been done with the research notes here. If you would like to improve that section, or add a new one specifically for the DNA study, that would be awesome. You'll just need to qualify to work on pre-1700 profiles (a relatively easy step), and coordinate with the New Netherlands project, which manages this profile. I'm not part of that project but I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. :)
edited by Ashley Jones JD
In order to properly demonstrate the mismatch between Pieter Cornelissen (Wyckoff) and Claes Cornelissen (van Schouw-Clawson-Garrabrant-Peterson) one would need to compare the two projects' results. The original comparison was done many years ago, and the comparative results weren't posted to either site. There's no administrator at present for the Wyckoff project, so I can't access the key info needed to publicly show the disproof on the VanSchouw site. So for now, I suppose anyone interested in the topic can use this comment board as a source.
It would be really invaluable to have a solid, well written explanation of the DNA project results over here, but in the meantime, your comments and the research notes are very helpful. If you know any patrilineal descendants who aren't on Wikitree yet but would allow you to create a profile for them, that may be another way to get his yDNA linked in here. I'm afraid my line is too far removed now, so I don't know any of them personally.
Merged and organized them all now, the family was quite a puzzle and indeed a result of some fake stuff or 'wishful' parents or deeper ancestors by Gustav Anjou and there were a lot of duplicates..added a link to the txt for the according that info assumed (but not his) wife Margaret van der Goes, there also notes are added that mention th Gustav Anjou fraude.
Left the 'son' William Clawson (Claessen, Claussen) that was attached to one of the duplicates and the duplicate Margaret van der Goes attached to this profile and marked father uncertain for now, if sources show he wasn't his son he probably should be removed as son of this profile as well.
Hope it helps and many thanks for the help!
Bea :)
ps: Added content research notes and church records to the profile of William (Willem) Clawson (Claasz, Claessen, etc)
Are these persons part of "fake" data by Gustav Anjou???
So I think they are probably not related after all.
And age as mentioned in 1640 (35) seems pretty correct (he was 25 according the marriage) in 1632 so baptized /born abt. 1607
Found the marriage record it says he is 25 years of age and Metje is 20 years of age, so this would mean he was born/baptized around 1607 and bride Metje Harperts around 1612 and it just says he was from Brouwershaven (Schouwen Duiveland, Zeeland) , 25 years of age and living in the Brouwersgracht, than probably his occupation (bode or Brouwer ?) and ... it doesn't mention he is a widower either . In the margin it says they were married 21 March , 1632 at (hard to read but looks like Sloterdijck (?) and maybe that this was witnessed by Metjen's mother (?) > Name of her witness is maybe Truijtgen (??) (very hard to make something out of it so first name is a wild guess) last name Jacobs.
At the baptisms of Trijntjen and Herpert mothers name is Hermans instead of Harperts, no concistency back than so hard to say, the name of child Herpert of course suggests this is the same couple also because there were not a lot of Metjens in combination with a Claes Corneliss .
Now the children or later generations were mentioned with the van Schouw(en) as names as well, so it seems very likely he really was not from Sweden. (so no idea where the Sweden idea is coming from ?)
Anyway because of this I don't think his parents are correct ? And his date and place of Birth ?? And the first wife looks like a duplicate of his sister ??
Update: found the baptism of Metje, her father was Herpert Jansz and mother was Pietertje Jacobs ;)
Pieterje is a duplicate with a wrong date and LNAB Wyckoff , have been looking where the date came from and found it's actually the baptism date of Simon Cornelis Wyckoff son of Cornelis Wyckoff and Geertje van Arsdale.
So probably she just received a wrong baptism/birth date. Have set them as unmerged match now and added a post and some info to the duplicate as well .
And either way (if it is Simon or Pieterje) she or he is a duplicate and should be merged of course to correct things.
As for the first child Pieter I think what you mean is he should be disconnected as child of these parents ?