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Seneca Ladd (abt. 1802 - 1868)

Seneca Ladd
Born about in Vermont, United Statesmap
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Husband of — married 23 Apr 1828 in Danville, Caledonia, Vermont, United Statesmap
Husband of — married 2 Dec 1847 in Peacham, Caledonia, Vermont, United Statesmap
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Died at about age 66 in Danville, Caledonia, Vermont, United Statesmap
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Biography

Seneca was born about 1802. He passed away in 1868.

Research Notes

Note that a nephew of Seneca's, a son of Zoroaster and Eleanor also named Seneca Ladd, b. ~1846, also married a Mary S Varnum (daughter of Charles and Betsey) in Peacham on 20 Jun 1869.[1] Take care not to conflate these profiles.

Sources

  1. ↑ "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V894-6D8 : Tue Oct 31 13:31:04 UTC 2023), Entry for Seneca Ladd and Mary A Varnum, 20 Jun 1869.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFK6-8ZJ : Tue Oct 31 14:17:57 UTC 2023), Entry for Seneca Ladd and Hitty Gardner, 17 Mar 1825.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFV1-GL3 : Tue Oct 31 14:36:36 UTC 2023), Entry for Seneca Ladd and Hitty Gardner, 17 Mar 1825.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFJ2-BX4 : 3 November 2017), Seneca Ladd and Pamela Estabrooks, 23 Apr 1828, Marriage; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,542.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFV1-GL9 : 17 October 2017), Seneca Ladd and Camela Estabrooks, 23 Apr 1828, Marriage; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,608.
  • "United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHTK-FJP : 18 August 2017), Seneca Ladd, Danville, Caledonia, Vermont, United States; citing p. 311, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 540; FHL microfilm 27,438.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFV1-GL7 : 17 October 2017), Seneca Ladd and Mary Dand, 02 Dec 1847, Marriage; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,608.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFJW-RLD : 18 October 2017), Seneca Ladd and Mary Dana, 02 Dec 1847, Marriage; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,525.
  • "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC2C-SH3 : 12 April 2016), Seneca Ladd, Danville, Caledonia, Vermont, United States; citing family 392, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  • "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFD9-Z4M : 12 December 2017), Senaca Ladd, 1860.
  • "Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFV1-GL8 : 17 October 2017), Seneca Ladd, 16 Oct 1868, Death; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,608.




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Madison-125 Bobbie (Madison) Hall
There's a problem with the marriage to Mary Varnum. The marriage record gives this info:

Seneca Ladd, farmer age 23 born [b. 1846] Canaan to Zorastus & Eleanor Ladd, of Peacham mar. Mary S. Varnum 20 Jun 1869 (Peacham VR p. 289).

There were two Seneca Ladds. The one born ca 1802 to James & Mary Ladd married (1) Hitty Gardner in Danville in 1825; (2) Pamela Estabrooks in Danville in 1828. He died 1868 in Danville, aged 66y 7m 2d. He was a blacksmith. Death record

The Seneca Ladd who married Mary Varnum [daughter of Charles & Betsey (Clark) Varnum age 19 at marriage] in Danville on 1869 was probably born much later, about 1846. He was a farmer. marriage in 1869 His marriage record gives his age as 23 in 1869, so born 1846, to Zorastus and Eleanor Ladd.

Questions? Let me know.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Brian Lamothe
Thanks - this is important to note to get ahead of any future confusion.

However, it does seem that this Seneca Ladd is paired with the correct Mary Varnum - your marriage list should have a (3) Mary (Varnum) Dana in Peacham in 1847. Mary Varnum, b. ~ 1812 married (1) Josiah Dana in Peacham in 1830; (2) Seneca Ladd. This is further evidenced by the 1850 census including Seneca's wife Mary some of his Dana stepchildren in the same household.

posted by Brian Lamothe
Madison-125 Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Working on it now .... ;) Looks like the Seneca she married was born to Zorastus and Eleanor about 1846, which would be this one but edited to change the parents & birth. I'll let you work on the Seneca profiles and I'll work on Mary (Varnum) (Dana) Ladd.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Brian Lamothe
Two Seneca Ladds and two Mary Varnums with two marriages.

These are the sources for the 1802 Seneca and 1812 Mary marriage in 1847:

"Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFV1-GL7 : 17 October 2017), Seneca Ladd and Mary Dand, 02 Dec 1847, Marriage; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,608.

"Vermont Vital Records, 1760-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFJW-RLD : 18 October 2017), Seneca Ladd and Mary Dana, 02 Dec 1847, Marriage; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,525.

posted by Brian Lamothe
edited by Brian Lamothe
Madison-125 Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Here's where the discrepancy lies:

On June 20, 1869, Seneca Ladd of Peacham married Mary S. Varnum of Peacham. He was a farmer age 23 born in Canaan to Zoroaser & Eleanor Ladd. She was age 19, born Peacham to Charles & Betsey Varnum. It was a first marriage for both. P.B. Fisk, minister, officiated. <ref>"Vermont, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1732-2005," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L999-LDYW?cc=1987653&wc=Q8ZY-CYQ%3A324710401%2C324889101%2C1583516903 : 24 June 2015), Caledonia > Peacham > Births, marriages, deaths 1787-1884 > image 18 of 155; citing various town clerks and records divisions, Vermont.</ref>

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Madison-125 Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Her gravestone, which is next to Josiah Dana's in Peacham, says she was the wife of Seneca Ladd. Very confusing! Her marriage rec to Seneca names parents as Charles & Betsey Varnum. Yet her death rec gives John & Mary. Hmmm, both can't be true.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Brian Lamothe
I do not believe the appropriate 1847 marriage record lists parents names for Mary (Varnum) Dana
posted by Brian Lamothe
Brian Lamothe
I understand, but this is the marriage of two different people. The Seneca Ladd in this 1869 marriage record is the son of Zoroaster Ladd, who was the brother of the Seneca that this profile represents. The Mary S Varnum the younger Seneca married is a different Mary Varnum than the one born to John Varnum and Mary Morse around 1812, who first married Josiah Dana and subsequently appeared as Mary Dana on her 1847 marriage to this Seneca.

It is very confusing, but it all becomes clear once we recognize that there were two couples with the exact same names at birth, just separated by a generation.

posted by Brian Lamothe
edited by Brian Lamothe
Madison-125 Bobbie (Madison) Hall
"Vermont, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1732-2005," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G999-LDJ4?cc=1987653&wc=Q8ZY-CYQ%3A324710401%2C324889101%2C1583516903 : 24 June 2015), Caledonia > Peacham > Births, marriages, deaths 1787-1884 > image 61 of 155; citing various town clerks and records divisions, Vermont.

This is the 1847 marriage of Mrs Mary Dana to Lenard Ladd.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Madison-125 Bobbie (Madison) Hall
The marriage for Seneca in 1847 apparently is in the Town Meeting records, Vol. 2:215, which is not available online as far as I can see.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall

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