Born about in Norwich, Norfolk, England
[uncertain]
Ancestors [uncertain]
Son of Samuel Mann
[uncertain]
and Anne (Ferrour) Manne
[uncertain]
Brother of
Samuel Mann, Maria Mann, Henricus Mann, Martha Mann, Martin Mann, Ester Mann, Nathaniel Mann and Elizabeth Mann
Husband of
Rebeckah (Short) Cowen
— married
about 21 Jul 1637 in Norwich, Norfolk, England [uncertain]
Descendants [uncertain] 
Died
at about age 44
in Scituate, Plymouth Colony
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Biography
This profile is part of the Mann Name Study.
Coat of Arms
Many members of the Man/Mann family have been armigerous. The Arms on this profile are for decorative purposes only.
Mistaken Identity
Samuel Deane in the History of Scituate (1831) believed that Richard Mann of Scituate (this profile) and Richard More, who sailed on the Mayflower, were the same person. This is obviously wrong since Moore remained in Plymouth long after Mann had drowned in Scituate.[1] At one time there was a belief that the wife of Richard was Rebecca, daughter of Elder Brewster.[2] This might make sense if the two Richards were the same, but they are not.
Origins - England
Most of the early settlers of New England were English.
John Plummer[3] suggested that Richard, the immigrant, may have been the Richard Man who went to Holland in 1638. A passenger list shows Richard Man and his wife Rebecca. "May 25th, 1638. The Exaiaton [examination] of Richard Man: of Ingram in Norff Tayler aged about 23 years, Rebecca: his wife aged about 30 yeares is desireous to goe into Holland to serve undr the States."[4]
The author believing this could be a record for the immigrant Richard looked for records in Norfolk (Norff) and found a marriage 21 July 1637 Richard Man and Rebecca Short at St. Julian's Church, Norwich, Norfolk.[5][6]
The author was not 100% certain: "So proof that we have the English origin of Richard Mann is lacking, although it is possible that diligent search, preferably in England, of the relevant archives, might supply further information. Until then, we are left with a tantalizing clue."[3]
An article was published in The American Genealogist by John Plummer entitled The Possible English Origin of Richard Man of Scituate, Massachusetts which may shed light on the subject. Plummer cited the following marriage and immigration records. Name, Richard Man, Gender, Male, Marriage Date,21 Jul 1637 Marriage Place, Saint Julian, Norwich, Norfolk, England, Spouse, Rebecca Short
Subsequent researchers located a christening in June 1611 at St. Martin Parish in Norwich of Richard, son of Samuel and Ann. The date must be hard to read. It was reported as 29 June 1611[7] and 2 June 1611[8] Although this looks likely the link that proves the immigrant is the same person is lacking, so the parents are marked uncertain.
Unsourced alternate parent: John Mann (1595-)
Marriage: Rebecca __?__ or Short
Torrey's Index Published 2003 (Information published since the original publication so it only contains the TAG70 article): [9] "Man, Richard (1655/6) & Rebecca Short; m2 1656 John Corwin; m. St Julians, Norwich, Norfolk 21 July 1637 Scituate [TAG 70:222]"
Torrey's Index Published 2011:[10]MAN, Richard (-1655) & Rebecca ____, m/2 John COWAN/ COWING/CARWIN 1656; by 1646; Scituate {MD 14:24; Hanover 350; Reg. 19:221, 87:287; Mann 58-9; Sv. 1:466; LBDF&P 4:161; NYGBR 30:125; TAG 27:220-21}
We know from the record of her remarriage that her given name was Rebecca. Rebackah Man married John Cowen on the last of March 1656.[11]
There are many inconsistencies between the scenario proposed by Plummer (see above) and subsequent findings. They can probably all be explained away, but should they?
- If Rebecca was 30 when she went to Holland. She would have been 58 when she had her last child in 1666.
- Her suggested birth, in Kent, in 1615, is inconsistent with both her age of thirty in 1638 and her place Kent (birth) to Norwich (marriage)
- Was the immigrant a Tailor? There is no indication from his inventory that he was a tailor. There are no scissors, needles, thread or other materials.
- If they were married in 1638, why was their first confirmed child not born until 1646?
- John's birth in 1611 is inconsistent with his age of 23 in 1638.
- They had no child named Samuel (alleged father's name)
Plymouth
Richard Man[12] arrived in the new world before 1644.[12] 15 Jan 1644, Richard Man took the Oath of Fidelity to the town of Scituate.[12][13]
In 1646, Richard Man received a one-thirtieth share in the "Conihassett grant" (Scituate)[14][15]
Shortly before his death, Richard Man was one of twelve jurymen the 15th of November, 1655, to look into the drowning of Thankful Pakes, the daughter of William Pakes, who fell into her father's well which was deemed by the court as very dangerous.[16]
Death and Legacy
Richard met with an untimely death by drowning 16 Feb 1655/6.[17] The 16th of February 1655, a jury was sworne to look into Richard's death.
- The verdict of the jury concerning the death of Richard Man:
- Wee find, that by coming ouer the pond from his owne house towards the farmes, that hee brake through the iyce, and was in soe deep that .hee could not git out, and by reason of the cold of the weather and water made him vnable to healp himselfe, neither could any other psent aford him any healp that could healp him out, though they vsed their best endeauors for the space of about an houre, as is reported to vs by the wittnesses that saw him, in which time hee died. This wee find to bee the cause of his death, as wee all judge."- (P. C. R., Vol. iii. p.92, 93..) [18]
On the fifth of March, 1655, the widow made an application to administer his estate, and letters were granted on the sixth of May following. Inventory of estate taken 14 Apr 1656 by James Cudworth and Walter Briggs, Am't £92, 2s.[18][12][19] The appraisal of Richard Mann's real and personal estate on record at Plymouth bears date 14 April 1655." Some of the items are:[12][20]
- 1 dwelling house & barn with 43 acres of upland; 13 acres marshland & share of Connihassett land undersold, 40 00 00
- 2 oxen, 10 00 00
- one heifer, 3 00 00
- 2 two-year-old steers, 5 10 00
- 3 yearlings, . 4 10 00
- 2 more valued, 9 00 00
- 3 bushels of barley and 3 bushels of good wheat, 01 05 00
- a pair of shoes, . . 00 06 00
- a bushel of Indian corn, 00 02 00
- a bushel of mault, . . . 00 04 00
- one bed, two old blankets, and a Rugg, 02 00 00
- one warming pan, . 00 06 00
- 2 spinning wheels, . 00 06 00
- one Iron Kettle, one Iron pot, and Iron skillet, 01 02 00
- 2 frying pans, a little kittle, 1 skillet, 1 pr. of tongues, 00 06 00
- 1 cradle, 2 old pitchforks, and old pair of cards, 00 06 00
- a bible with other books, 00 05 00
- 1 plow, plow points, 2 axes, 2 hammers, and hoe, 00 14 00
- 2 pieces of bacon, 01 06 00
- small shotgun, old box, with 4 old chairs, and pr. of balances, 00 06 00
- 2 old hogsheads, one barrel, etc., 00 08 00
- one Sabbath short coat, 00 16 00
- a few other articles so obliterated by age that I could not decipher them.-ED.)
- Sum total, 92 02 00
- James Cudworth, Walter Briggs appraisers
- [signed] Timothy Hatherly, Esq. 2d May 1656
Children
Children, b at Scituate, Massachusetts, of Richard Man and presumably his wife. Please note the spelling is Man.[12][21][11]
- Nathaniel Man Sr (1646-1688) 25 Sep 1646, died on 21 Jul 1688 in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts; m. (2) at Rehoboth 3 Jul 1676 (not 9 April 1678, Mary Wheaton (b. Rehoboth 4 Nov 1656.[17]
- Thomas Man Sr. (1650-abt.1732) 15 Aug 1650, died on 12 Jul 1732 in Scituate, Plymouth
- Richard Man II (1652-1728) 5 Feb 1652, died in 1738 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut
- Josiah Man (1654-) 10 Dec 1654
The Mann House
The Mann House or Mann Farmhouse of Scituate, was built by descendants of Richard Man. It is now a museum.
Richard lived on Mann Hill overlooking the ocean, to the east, and Musquashcut Pond, on the north, where Richard met his death in the winter of 1655/6.
Sources
- ↑ Bowman, George Ernest. "The Only Mayflower Gravestone" The Mayflower Descendant Vol 3:193 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
- ↑ "Queries and Answers" TAG 16: 235 (1935): Gen. of New Hampshire Vol II Stearns compiler says Richard Man of Scituate m. Rebecca d/o Elder William Brewster. https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/11882/235/134886699 No one answered.
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Plummer, John. "The Possible English Origin of Richard Mann of Scituate, Massachusetts." TAG 70:220-222. Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
- ↑ Plummer citing Transcript of Three Registers of Passengers from Great Yarmouth to Holland and New England, 1637-1639. by Charles Boardman Jewson, Henry Hill (Deputy Clerk to the Office for Passengers Over Sea.) Norfolk Record Society, 1954
- ↑ "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN3T-6MZ : 12 February 2018), Richard Man and Rebecca Short, 21 Jul 1637; citing St. Julian'S Church, Norwich, Norfolk, England, reference, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,657,262.
- ↑ Norfolk Public Record Office: Dr. Alban, Archivist. {photocopy} A {marked} Soiled {marked} Faded Document. Nuptial of Richard Man & Rebecca Short, 21 July 1637 at St. Julian Church Parish, Norwich, Norfolk, England.
- ↑ Mormon Family History Centre Microfiche, Page 14,471. MANN - Norwich, Norfolk, England, Saint Martin Parish. christening of Richard, son of Samuel & Ann, 29 June 1611. Mormon Family History Centre Microfiche, Page 14,471.
- ↑ FreeReg.org.uk
- ↑ Sanborn, Melinda Lutz. Third Supplement to Torrey´s New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Gen. Publ. Co. 2003
- ↑ Torrey, Clarence Almon. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. NEHGS 2011.
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 Vital records of Scituate, Massachusetts, to the year 1850. Vol 1 Births. (Boston, Mass. : Published by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1909) pp 242, 243
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 Mann, George S. Mann memorial. A record of the Mann family in America. Genealogy of the descendants of Richard Mann, of Scituate, Mass. Preceded by English family records, and an account of the Wrentham, Rehoboth, Boston, Lexington, Virginia, and other branches of the Manns who settled in this country. (Boston: Press of D. Clapp & son, 1884) link Archive
- ↑ Nathaniel Bradstreet Shurtleff and David Pulsifer. Records of the colony of New Plymouth, in New England; printed by order of the legislature of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts by New Plymouth Colony, Vol. 7 Miscellaneous Records 1633-1689 (Vital records and burials; Treasury accounts, and Lists of freemen and others) [https://archive.org/stream/recordsofcolonyo0708newp#page/n195/mode/2up/search/Richard+Man p. 183
- ↑ Pullsifer, David, (ed.)Records of the Colony of New Plymouth, in New England: Vol 12 Deeds, &c., 1620-1651. Book of Indian records for their lands (1861) p. 158
- ↑ Mann, Rev. Joel "Geneaology of the Mann Family" p.273. pub. 1873 by the Author https://archive.org/details/genealogyofmannf00mann
- ↑ Shurtleff, Nathaniel Bradstreet (ed.). Records of the colony of New Plymouth, in New England: printed by order of the legislature of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Vol. 3 Court Orders 1651-1661 (Boston: Press of W. White 1855) p. 92
- ↑ 17.0 17.1 Moriarty, G. Andrews. "Additions and Corrections to Austin's Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island. TAG 27:220 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
- ↑ 18.0 18.1 Records of the colony of New Plymouth, in New England; printed by order of the legislature of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts by New Plymouth Colony, by Nathaniel Bradstreet Shurtleff and David Pulsifer. Vol. 3 Court Orders 1651-1661 pp 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
- ↑ "Plymouth Colony Wills and Inventories [Richard Mann's Inventory" The Mayflower Descendant 14:23, 24. Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
- ↑ "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G97D-VSJM : 6 March 2023), Wills 1633-1686 vol 1-4 > image 162 of 616; State Archives, Boston. Page 23.
- ↑ "Early Marriages and Births in Scituate." New England Historical and Genealogical Register 19:221 (1865)
See also:
- Chief Justice Cushing Chafter, Old Scituate (Earnshaw Press Corp., Boston, Mass. Copyright 1921), Pages 23-25.
- Representative Men and Old Families of Southeastern Massachusetts: (Chicago, IL. (1912 )), 42.
- Daughters of Founders and Patriots of America, National Society of, Founders and Patriots of America Index. (1967), 144.
- Briggs, Vernon L, History & Genealogy of the Briggs Family, 1254-1937, 1938 (3 Volumes).[ https://archive.org/details/b29825362_0001/page/236]
- Ammerman, Charles Richard, Mann - Peters - Man, 3-24.
- Wakefield, Robert S. "Additions and Corrections to Austin's Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island. TAG 52:168, 169
- Plymouth Colony Wills and Inventories. The Mayflower Descendant 14:23, 24 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
- Descendants of Richard Mann of Scituate, Mass. Freepages Rootsweb
- Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May 1692. Vol. I-IV. (Boston, MA, USA: 1860-1862). Savage has him conflated with Richard More. But lists correct children.
- Pope, Charles Henry. The pioneers of Massachusetts, a descriptive list, drawn from records of the colonies, towns and churches, and other contemporaneous documents (Boston: C.H. Pope 1900)p. 298
- Deane, Samuel, History of Scituate, Massachusetts, from its first settlement to 1831 (Boston: J. Loring, 1831) pp 309, 310. Conflates Richard Mann and Richard More. Conihassett partner 1646. Farm at Man hill, south of Musquashcut pond. Lists of children and grandchildren.
- Dwelley, Jedediah and Simmons, John F. History of the town of Hanover, Massachusetts: with family genealogies (Hanover, Mass. Pub. by the town of Hanover, 1910) p. 273 Basic biography. Follows the line of Thomas.
- Dickinson, Marquis F. "George Sumner Mann." New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Vol 64:103 (1910) p. 103 Gives a brief biography of Richard.
- Mann, Joel, 1873 Genealogy of the Mann family. Archive.org accessed 26 April 2016.
- Record of the Man, Needles (Nedels) and Hambleton Families...1495-1876 By Samuel Hambleton Needles · 1876, https://www.google.com/books/edition/Record_of_the_Man_Needles_Nedels_and_Ham/hOM1AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Richard%20Man
- Rapaport, Diane. "From Mann Hill to Cowen Rocks: An Tale of Early Scituate." American Ancestors Magazine. vol. 11.3 pp 52, 53 (2010) Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
- Dwelley, Jedediah & Simmons, John F. "History of the Town of Hanover, Massachusetts with Family Genealogies" p.273. This secondary source appears to be quoting from the Rev. Joel Mann genealogy. Accessed 8 Nov 2021.https://archive.org/details/historyoftownofh00dwell/page/273/mode/1up?q=Mann&view=theater
- Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical and Family Memoirs: Mann, https://www.schenectadyhistory.org/families/hmgfm/mann-1.html
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Nothing to lose so the best situation would be to marry his master's widow. Just a thought another Mann descendant put in my head. Although it was ruled an accidental drowning, we will never know exactly what happened on February 16, 1656. If you think that this is inappropriate, then it can be archived or deleted.
edited by Keith Mann Spencer
Missy (Berryann-1)
The real question is - Is this Richard the immigrant of 1644 (with wife Rebecca (who bore children 1646-1666), the same man who was baptized 1611 at St Martin at Palace, Norwich; married Rebecca Short 1637 at St Julian, Norwich; and probably migrated to Holland in 1638 (Richard age 23, Rebecca age 30)?
I reviewed the literature TAG 70:220 and there is no certainty/proof that they are the same person, nothing to make that final link. American Ancestors doesn't have any subsequent literature pertaining to this.
We could leave the parents and birth but mark them as uncertain.
Thoughts?
Thank you for understanding!
Second Man/Mann coat of arms is taken from a book about my Great Grandfather Richard Man, and the author gives permission to use. Mann memorial. A record of the Mann family in America. Genealogy of the descendants of Richard Mann, of Scituate, Mass. Preceded by English family records, and an account of the Wrentham, Rehoboth, Boston, Lexington, Virginia, and other branches of the Manns who settled in this country by Mann, George S. (George Sumner), 1834-1909, Pages 6-7, Man/Mann Coat of Arms[1]
The other appears to be from a book, if over 100 years old it may be OK but it is not sourced.
https://archive.org/details/mannmemorialreco00mann/page/112/mode/2up?q=Oliver+Man
edited by Keith Mann Spencer
PARENTS ??? Charles and Afra seem to come from https://archive.org/details/mannmemorialreco00mann/page/12 Except read the pedigree. They don't have a Richard listed as child. Did they have a child Richard? Is there documentation? Is there documentary evidence that he was the brother of William? If Charles had a Richard, how do we know it's this Richard? I think the first thing to do lacking evidence is to disconnect him from these parents.