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Hamo (Valoignes) de Valoines (1130 - 1197)

Hamo de Valoines formerly Valoignes
Born in Suffolk, Englandmap
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Died at about age 67 in Suffolk, Englandmap
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Hamon de Valognes

At the Domesday survey Hamo, also described as Hamo de Valenis; a tenant of count Alan at Parham and elsewhere in Suffolk. [1]

Hamon was a tenant of the Honour of Gloucester, and became Sheriff of Cardiff in 1185. [2]

While King Richard Ist was engaged in France, from 1197 to 1199, the Viceroyalty of Ireland was held by Hamon de Valognes, an Anglo-Norman of Suffolk, allied to Theobald FitzWalter (Theobald Fitz-Gaultier), ancestor of the Ormonde family, and connected with the Geraldines by the marriage of his daughter to Gerald FitzMaurice Fitz Gerald, first Baron of Offaly. [3]

In 1193, John, brother to King Richard Ist of England, entrusted Waterford to Hamon de Valognes, following the Norman invasion of Ireland.

Hamon de Valognes (Hamo de Valis) was appointed Lord Justiciar of Ireland 1196-1199 by John [4]

At John's accession in 1199 Hamon received lands in Limerick, and in 1200 became Sheriff of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire and bailiff of Glamorgan. His son and heir was Hamon de Valognes the younger. [5]

Hamon was obliged to have recourse to arms, to suppress Gislebert de Nangle, a mutinous baron of Meath, whom he expelled and outlawed. The encroachments of De Valognes upon, the rights and property claimed by John Comyn, Archbishop of Dublin, led to serious embroilments with that prelate, who excommunicated the Viceroy, with the other officers of John in Ireland, and placed his diocese under interdict. The Archbishop, who had endowed St. Patrick's Church at Dublin, appealed in person to King Richard and Prince John; but they disregarded his complaints, and placed him under constraint in Normandy; while the Viceroy seized the property of the vacant see of Leighlin, and prevented the consecration of a monk of the order of Citeaux, who had been designated to that bishopric.

These proceedings evoked the interference of Pope Innocent III., who, by letters from Perugia, reprimanded the Earl of Mortagne for detaining in exile " his venerable brother, the Archbishop of Dublin," and required him to repair the injuries inflicted by his minister, Hamon de Valognes, on the clergy of Leighlin.

About the same period, the more favoured Canons of the Abbey of St. Thomas obtained from John a grant of the tithe of all salmon brought to his kitchen in the Castle of Dublin. Hamon subsequently atoned for his offences, by bestowing a portion of his Irish lands upon the see of Dublin ; but, on retiring from office, after a term .of two years, he was obliged to pay a thousand marks to the King, to obtain an acquittance from his viceregal accounts. [6]


Sources

  1. Baron Theobald I DE VALOINES, Lord Of Parham, Butler Of Ireland
  2. Wikipedia : de Valognes
  3. History of the viceroys of Ireland; with notices of the Castle of Dublin and its chief occupants in former times by J.T.Gilbert
  4. The Present State of Great-Britain and Ireland: In Three Parts ... by Guy Miege pub: 1718
  5. note : Geoffrey de Valognes, lord of Titsey, was father of Hamon de Valognes Wikipedia : de Valognes
  6. History of the viceroys of Ireland; with notices of the Castle of Dublin and its chief occupants in former times by J.T.Gilbert






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Per Keats Rohan, Valognes and Valoines are entirely different families.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Valognes

  1. "The family descending from the Domesday ancestor Peter de Valognes is believed to have originated in Valognes in the Cotentin peninsula in Normandy."
  2. "The family descending from Hamo de Valoines of Parham may have originated from Valaines in the region of Rennes in Brittany."
posted by Isaac Taylor
The sources for this profile are not compelling. The ignore the comments and discrepancies WITHIN the sources themselves, that point out that Hamon de Valognes -- indeed that entire family from Normandy -- is unrelated to this notional family which may or may not have been from Brittany. Rather, this profile appears to conflate two different men with similar (but not the same) names.

Secondarily, the current bio plagarizes without citing sources. We need to use quotation marks or blockquotes and not just copy and paste other peoples' work. Especially when it's wrong.

posted by Isaac Taylor
not really happy with the genealogy here yet - still working on it
posted by Valerie Willis

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